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« Thread started on: May 14th, 2015, 2:48pm »

I'll just leave this here.



I know I'm not the target audience so I shouldn't destroy it completely. Honestly, if the people that like these kinds of shows (probably younger females) get a kick out of it, maybe even start diving into the comics, my dislike will be totally worth it. Who knows, maybe this allows females that wouldn't otherwise get into comics, to actually 'get' geek culture a bit more.

But maybe not. Who am I and what does my voice amount to anyway?

But yeah, I'm not going to watch this.
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« Reply #1 on: May 14th, 2015, 8:19pm »

I'm indifferent I guess. The Mrs. said she'd give it a try, so I guess I will, too. Who knows, maybe it won't suck as bad as it looks like it will.
And I like pretty girls in costumes. cry
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« Reply #2 on: May 15th, 2015, 02:31am »

I liked Gilmore Girls.

Does this look like it shits all over the characters? Yes, probably. 'James' Olson is a fucking joke. So timid, bumbling, eager Jimmy Olson is now a straight talking, over-confident, borderline arrogant jock? Fuck off, fuck right off now.

So Kara's civilian identity is... Kara? Ooookay. And if she isn't hiding being Supergirl at the start, she is wearing the glasses why exactly? Hopefully that stuff is explained, it certainly needs to be. I haven't read up anything on this show, but the trailer is a really weird jump from Krypton to having an adult (human) sister of unexplained origin. Obviously her family background will be explained, but the trailer is confusing.

It's strange. Something about this show makes me want to give it a chance, and I will definitely watch at least the first episode, probably even the first few. And this is coming from someone who couldn't even attempt to watch a single episode of Gotham because everything about the promos and every single clip and trailer I have seen is so offensive and embarrassing in the atrocious writing, acting, and totally disregard for the characters, it actually makes me feel sick. How the fuck that show got renewed for a second series baffles me.

I enjoyed the beginning of Smallville, gave up after the third year, that's a show that went on way too long for its own good. I'll give this a chance at least.
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« Reply #3 on: May 15th, 2015, 4:49pm »

There's a disparity between the first two minutes, and when she's on her date with the plane about to crash. From that latter point onwards, it becomes decent.

The music tracks still jar me, but I may have been hung up on the beginning part a bit too much when I posted my comments.

There's hope for this, but I'm still not enthusiastic.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24th, 2015, 12:33pm »

Pilot is on Youtube, until it's not.

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« Reply #5 on: May 24th, 2015, 9:35pm »

I'd heard it leaked. Didn't realize it was on the 'tube. Grabbed it, will watch it later. Thanks cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: May 25th, 2015, 02:23am »

I watched it just now. I actually enjoyed watching that Pilot episode. Maybe the trailer opened with the wrong atmosphere leading to a bad first impression that lingered (on me), or maybe the music is better (it is) and the Pilot works when a bit more paced.

(Man the trailer had god-awful music.)

Whatever it was, I thought the first episode was... Cute? Innocent? Prototypical heroic? Those are the words I find best describe my experience, and all of those words are intended in a positive manner.

I thought Kara was cute. Not in the sexualised way but in the 'I'm rooting for her because she looks like she has her heart in the right place' kind of way. Benoist portrays Kara well, optimistic and sweet, like you want your Super-superhero.

Innocent, too. Sure, the Pilot's story is nothing original but it works. It is really just Kara deciding to be a superhero. There's no gritty or dark stuff that they forced upon Man of Steel--Kara is the superhero you expect her to be. Nothing more, nothing less.

That, to me, makes her the prototypical superhero. I just want my Super-superheroes to be heroes. That's it. They don't need to be too conflicted by self-doubt, nor do they need to be forced into making impossible moral conundrums. I almost crave a 60s vibe where good is good, bad is bad, and its characters are almost stereotypes of their comic book counter parts (or just of jocks, in the case of Jimmy Olson). As if it updated Batman 60s campness for the modern age.

So yeah, can't for the next episode to, uh, be available for purchase.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25th, 2015, 08:04am »

on May 25th, 2015, 02:23am, TheMidnighter wrote:
Whatever it was, I thought the first episode was... Cute? Innocent? Prototypical heroic? Those are the words I find best describe my experience, and all of those words are intended in a positive manner.

I thought Kara was cute. Not in the sexualised way but in the 'I'm rooting for her because she looks like she has her heart in the right place' kind of way. Benoist portrays Kara well, optimistic and sweet, like you want your Super-superhero.

Innocent, too. Sure, the Pilot's story is nothing original but it works. It is really just Kara deciding to be a superhero. There's no gritty or dark stuff that they forced upon Man of Steel--Kara is the superhero you expect her to be. Nothing more, nothing less.


My thoughts exactly. I greatly enjoyed the characterisation and her performance.

Overall I moderately enjoyed the episode. Bad acting, bad special effects, and some instances of truly cringe-worthy writing seem to be par for the course for these productions. Benoist was definitely the standout for me because her Kara was just so goddamn likeable. So far I'm estimating enjoyment of the episode at approximately 6-7x that of Man Of Steel, if I'm being harsh on the Pilot. wink

My biggest complaint was Jocky Olson. It really irritates me when something is advertised as 'not being a slave to past stories and Continuities and is a fresh approach.' Ok, that's fine. If you want a jock, have a jock, but don't call him Jimmy, sorry, James Olson. Make him a new character. If this isn't weighed down by past approaches, you can still have your jock friend of Superman, but call him whatever you want, you're making this up, make Superman have a jock friend.

When I watched the early episode of Smallville, my favourite character was Chloe. I didn't care she was a new addition and wasn't in the comics, I just really liked her because I thought she was a good character. If you're going to use an existing character, at least have them true to the roots and soul of that character, don't have a complete betrayal. If you are going to change everything about a character and simply recycle a name, you'll probably piss a lot of people off. Rename Jocky Olson something entirely new and I'll be a lot more forgiving.

On that note, Cat Grant. Her role is very different to the one from the comics, but her personality seems to be a very good interpretation as the way she was. I've only read her as a Daily Planet reporter, here she runs her own paper. The fundamentals of the character are the same , her motives and character traits seem pretty accurate, but she is being utilised in a different way. I'm okay with that.

It comes down to my old Burton VS Nolan comparison. Burton changed a lot of the surface details of the characters, so if you looked at still images, the Nolan characters would look a lot more true to the source material. But Burton honoured the fundamental souls and psyches of the characters, which Nolan betrayed. In their entirety, the Burton characters were true to the souls and fundamentals of their comic counterparts, which couldn't often be said of the Nolan versions.

Also, hello Helen Slater cameo!
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Watched the Pilot with my girlfriend. She loved it, I found it serviceable. She wants more episodes now! Ha ha, but I'll certainly be giving the show a go when it properly arrives. As much as I felt there was to criticise, Kara was just so bloody likable I do genuinely want to watch more. I may even grow to like it. Fuck Gotham.
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« Reply #8 on: May 25th, 2015, 12:59pm »

on May 25th, 2015, 08:04am, Nick wrote:
My biggest complaint was Jocky Olson.
Agreed. It just doesn't make sense why he had to be Olson and not some other reporter.

There's an Olson twin joke in there somewhere. Maybe.

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And Dean Cain right next to her!
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« Reply #9 on: May 25th, 2015, 8:16pm »

Watched it with the Mrs. She liked it much more than I did. I didn't dislike it, it didn't *grab* me.
Also didn't like "James" Olsen.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 7th, 2015, 8:44pm »

So, character change. I'm assuming the "real" one will return from the dead and become what he's supposed to.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 3rd, 2016, 5:16pm »

http://comicbook.com/2016/02/03/the-flash-supergirl-crossover-episode-titled-worlds-finest-multi/

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« Reply #12 on: Feb 3rd, 2016, 6:15pm »

Earth-Supergirl appears to be through one of the 52 multiverse portals.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 04:06am »

How are you guys finding the series so far? I can't watch it because in the UK it is on the Sky network, which is an internet/TV provider. As my internet/TV is with a different provider I have no access to Sky content. I don't know whether to gamble on the Blu-Ray when it comes out (although I had planned to wait for the inevitable complete box when the show is done if I liked it).

It depends really how popular the show is. Sky in the past have been known to drop shows that are declining in quality, which usually coincides with their popularity rising with audiences and other channels are willing to bid more money. I know in the past Sky dropped both Friends and Scrubs as the quality diminished and popularity rose, so the UK Channel 4 network (which is free to everybody) picked them both up. I could foresee the same thing potentially happening with Supergirl at some point depending of whether Sky think it is worth keeping.

On another note - actual Gilmore Girls is coming back! wink cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 5:35pm »

on Feb 9th, 2016, 04:06am, Nick wrote:
How are you guys finding the series so far?


It's shit. And shit in a bad way. If you're a teenage girl, you might like it. The wife watches it, and I'm in the room, but it's sometimes really painful to listen to. I've actually laughed heartily (out loud) at some of the dialogue.
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