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 1   Current Continuity, Issues, and Arcs / Re: Expanded Re-Release TPBs.  on: Jun 24th, 2017, 02:53am
Started by Nick | Post by Nick
DC are at it again!

on Sep 11th, 2012, 11:20am, Nick wrote:
The other bad point is the printing (and this is a major issue in many re-releases). On the plus it is matte paper, but the actual colouring has seen a DNR style scrubbing to smooth it all out to give it a more modern look. But in doing this major detail has been lost, just like DNR. You only have to look at the opening issue of Bane breaking open Arkham and nearly every page is missing pencil lines all over the place. It is a travesty. On top of that the contrast has been put so far up everything is so blown out and a lot of colour subtlety is also lost.

After watching the film I thought it would be nice to read some Wonder Woman. The new collections seemed to be the easiest/most cost effective way to go:

I knew print quality could be an issue, but I was hoping DC might have improved. That's a BIG DC NO! The Blu-Ray DNR style havoc is back in full force. I cannot even begin to comprehend the decision making process that results in scrubbing away parts of the art.

My case in point is the Time Passages issue which is #8. Large amounts of this issue are prose which due to the scrubbing are now partially (in some cases largely) erased. It makes reading at best challenging, at worst sometimes nigh on impossible to work out what a word says.

Unlike Knightfall, I don't have an original release to compare it to. But there are countless instances where there are very obviously missing lines and details. For example, in an early issue, a crowd of characters are pink blobs with dotted outlines. I fully suspect each person was a solid unbroken line originally.

Also like Knightfall, the colours are very washed out, I imagine the older releases were a lot more vibrant than this with a far greater range in colour.

Unless you just want a cheaper read, avoid and take to Ebay for some older better collections.
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 2   Current Continuity, Issues, and Arcs / Re: Crisis To Crisis (AKA How important is Zero Ho  on: Jun 20th, 2017, 6:54pm
Started by Nick | Post by snipe
Just to add another to your list, Cosmic Odyssey brings the New Gods back. There's also a 2 issue "History of the DC Universe" that Wolfman / Perez did that followed up to COIE.

Zero Hour also dealt with Parallax and the Monarch / Armageddon 2001 series.

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 3   Current Continuity, Issues, and Arcs / Re: Crisis To Crisis (AKA How important is Zero Ho  on: Jun 20th, 2017, 11:05am
Started by Nick | Post by Nick
Cheers. There is a fairly recent Zero Hour TPB which is probably of the usual modern DC terrible print quality. I didn't realise the JSA were brought back in with Zero Hour. As they are important, that is a factor in the favour of actually reading it. From what I have read about it (rather than actually reading it) it was like you say, a soft reboot to tidy up the timeline because they didn't think it out properly with CoIE. But at least early Post-Crisis was still better than New 52! As far as Batman goes, I think it was in the tie-ins which I have read a long time ago where they made the Wayne murders by an anonymous mugger never caught. I never liked that, I was glad the Joe Chill origin was brought back again.

It's been a while since I last looked at Identity Crisis, but I think I had it because (if I'm recalling correctly) it deals with the Catwoman mindwipe that factored heavily into her solo series and the death of Jack Drake. I think I got JLA Crisis Of Conscience because it picked up the Catwoman plot again, but I can't remember at the moment why it jumped out at me.
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 4   On Screen / Re: Nightwing film + Teen Titans series  on: Jun 20th, 2017, 11:02am
Started by snipe | Post by snipe
Going to piggy-back the TT web series onto this topic.

Dick's well-written background / bio:
Male, late 20s-early 30s, Caucasian. Equal parts charm and impenetrability, John is a cop. He has a nice smile, tired eyes and a cool, distant manner. However, when provoked, his eyes are so lethal “they drain a man of every last bit of spleen.” John is haunted by the murder of his family. Unbeknownst to those around him, he is also a vigilante. In the shadows, he fights with the commitment and conviction of an artist, the brutal grace of a dancer. Mentally and physically, he is covered in a map of scars. And though he fights to escape his past, it is often a losing battle…SERIES LEAD

I just hope they don't amp up the teen angst. I do like that DG is going to be older than the rest of the team.
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 5   Current Continuity, Issues, and Arcs / Re: Crisis To Crisis (AKA How important is Zero Ho  on: Jun 20th, 2017, 10:39am
Started by Nick | Post by snipe
Zero Hour. If you have it, go for it. I'm not sure there's a trade in print that you could easily track down otherwise unless you want to go the ebay way.
I don't see it as essential in the "crisis" scheme, though I do see it as essential when reading titles from '94. It reset time on several events and mashed some stuff into the timeline. IIRC, it helped put the JSA into the post-Crisis timeline.
There's also a series of trades called Crisis on Multiple Earths. These cover the early JLA summer events where Earth-1 interacted with others. You'll get good background on characters and events from the original Crisis, but definitely not essential. They're only named "Crisis..." to tie in with COIE.
Identity Crisis is the mind-wipe story. It's more self-contained and not far reaching. Not sure I'd consider it a crisis.
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 6   Current Continuity, Issues, and Arcs / Crisis To Crisis (AKA How important is Zero Hour?)  on: Jun 19th, 2017, 08:26am
Started by Nick | Post by Nick
I decided I felt like reading Convergence (the actual series, not just Batman family tie-ins) and Multiversity (shock horror, a Grant Morrison I haven't read)! I thought, why not do a run of reading just the Crises. One I never read was Zero Hour. So I have two questions:

1) If I was just going to read the Crises themselves, can I safely skip Zero Hour? I know the practical reason for it existing as a plot device, but is the actual plot itself really that important in the grander scheme or just the results of it?

2) Based on the list below, am I missing any books you consider vitally important that you recommend, and why? I've always been almost exclusively Batman family focussed and these are the ones I thought were Batman essential. But I'm happy to consider others if they have absolutely vital plot elements not included in these books.


What I already had before:

  • If it was published in a Batman Family book, I have it, including all Zero Hour tie-ins).

  • Crisis On Infinite Earths TPB
  • Identity Crisis TPB
  • JLA Crisis Of Conscience TPB
  • OMAC Project TPB
  • Infinite Crisis TPB
  • 52 TPBs (base series only)
  • Final Crisis TPB
  • Flashpoint TPB

Just added:
  • Convergence TPB (already had tie-ins)
  • Multiversity TPB

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 7   On Screen / Re: Gilmore Supergirls  on: Jun 16th, 2017, 3:43pm
Started by TheMidnighter | Post by Nick
We're onto the second:

  • While the first was entertainingly bad, this is just bad.
  • The writing for dialogue is a lot better, but weirdly less entertaining. The writing for plot is worse.
  • The loss of Calista Flockhart was expected with the move to Canada, but leaves the show feeling a lot emptier.
  • Similar for Peter Facinelli. While he was far less integral to the show, he added more layers. It was hardly a deep show before, but now it feels even more superficial. At least Cat Grant had an exit, which makes Maxwell Lord's abrupt absence even more noticeable.
  • Secret Government organisation with their skyscraper in the middle of a busy city with their massive logo on it who anyone can and does just walk into. But yeah, secret.
  • They found a way to take the monster of the week formula and make it more boring.
  • The thinly veiled in your face social political metaphors with 'alien refugees' where some want to kill you but others don't gets very tiresome very fast. Makes Kara's eternal optimism get grating. It makes me long for a crazy old drunk Frank Miller Batman who takes no shit and would rather pro-actively and pragmatically deal with the situation quickly instead of making perky 'inspirational' speeches.
  • Glad to be seeing less of Kara's mother/aunt. Something about her terrible acting really irritated me.
  • Jocky Olsen is still Jocky.
  • Weird bug eyed bushy eyebrowed Superman was actually sort of decent.
  • I love how Katie McGrath keeps slipping into Irish.
  • The story of Superman 1978 is canon it seems.

Speaking of Maxwell Lord:
  • Am I alone in thinking that he had the personality of Lex Luthor rather than Maxwell Lord? In that he mistrusted aliens and wanted to protect humanity so he actually had a noble motive like Lex and wasn't just plain mental like Lord.
  • So after all of his the flirting with Chyler Leigh, now he's gone and she is suddenly and completely unconvincingly a lesbian spoiler? Yeah they tried to explain it - they failed.

Eugh, this one is going to be a struggle.

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 8   On Screen / Re: Batman+Superman=BS  on: Jun 5th, 2017, 10:56am
Started by Will | Post by snipe
My only issue with WW was...I expect a WWI era soldier to be a bit more gentlemanly and proper. Maybe that's stereotyping, I don't know. He seemed way to modern and rogueish.
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 9   On Screen / Re: Gilmore Supergirls  on: Jun 5th, 2017, 10:54am
Started by TheMidnighter | Post by snipe
I think you hit the nail on the head. The writing gets better in the second series / season, but it's still quite laughable at least once per episode.
Flash is great, though.
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 10   Current Continuity, Issues, and Arcs / Re: Upcoming reprints  on: Jun 4th, 2017, 1:20pm
Started by masahikotahara | Post by Nick
That's disappointing about the pages. Mine was perfect when it arrived, but I haven't opened it up in a while so hopefully that's still the case... I've been concerned about the quality of DCs binding in recent years.

Did you check out the redone pages before sending it back? I particularly liked how in the flashbacks Batman was back in his correct costume for the time period being referenced rather than having him retroactively in that horrible New 52 suit.

The disappointing change, was rather than give Gordon white hair in the New 52 issues, they went back and gave him red hair in the old DCU stuff instead. Yeah, there was less to change by doing it that way, but as they made the flashbacks DCU consistent, it would have been nice to do a bit more to try and make it all visually DCU rather than New 52, but hey ho. I can live with red Nightwing, the blue is better, but if he does back to Nightwing after being Batman I can overlook him having a change-up.

I can't say I like Chris Burnham's art all that much, but his completed pages are so much better than the original horrible fill in art, so it was nice seeing his completed pages instead.
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