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 1   On Screen / Re: Justice League  on: Yesterday at 03:27am
Started by Nick | Post by Nick
I won't post spoiler thoughts yet, but I enjoyed this (accurate) picture:

https://i.imgur.com/1AtlF5j.jpg

Also a rather comprehensive list of Whedon changes (spoilers obviously):

https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/7dob2k/resetera_insider_leaks_snyder_original_cut_details/




on Nov 18th, 2017, 08:07am, snipe wrote:
...I certainly resent the fact that he got on screen before Nightwing. If Batman were creating an army in a universe where he obviously had previous partners (per Gordon's dialogue), why not start with who he trusts?


I think, and I am really stretching here, is that somewhere in BvS/JL/Trailers Batman says something about needing more people with 'abilities' ie metahumans - so maybe he is leaving his trusted partners out of it to keep them safe? Batman himself has been on his suicidal 'die a martyr' quest ever since Superman/Zod and sees it as his duty to go all in. Although obviously we all know in reality his most trusted ally and most awesome person in the whole DCU would be right there with him. I really hope when Nightwing is introduced they don't go down the 1980s/19990s conflict between the two and have them not talking or working with each other, I prefer the 2000s slick partnership.


 
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 2   On Screen / Re: Justice League  on: Yesterday at 02:49am
Started by Nick | Post by TheMidnighter
I still need to watch it. From what I gather, I will enjoy it but my briefs will remain clean.
 
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 3   On Screen / Re: Justice League  on: Nov 18th, 2017, 08:07am
Started by Nick | Post by snipe
The only things "jarring" to me were (1) the numerous unnecessary crotch-and-butt shots of Wonder Woman. They didn't use those camera angles on the males. (2) Superman's mustache removal.
Being a TT fan, I can't say I hated Cyborg, but I certainly resent the fact that he got on screen before Nightwing. If Batman were creating an army in a universe where he obviously had previous partners (per Gordon's dialogue), why not start with who he trusts?
 
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 4   On Screen / Re: Justice League  on: Nov 17th, 2017, 7:17pm
Started by Nick | Post by JTurner954
Came back from watching it earlier.

Flawed? Yes. Bad? No.

My main complaint is the attempted humor - mostly from Flash. It didn't always work and felt unnecessary. The CGI really didn't bother me. The story was fine. Steppenwolf could have been a better villain.

So yeah, I liked it. More so than Suicide Squad which was truly a mess, and not more than Batman v. Superman which I didn't think was a mess to begin with.

I noticed Rotten Tomatoes has it at 39% from critics and 89% from everyone else. Wow.

And wow at that last post credits scene.
 
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 5   On Screen / Re: Justice League  on: Nov 17th, 2017, 3:34pm
Started by Nick | Post by Nick
Short spoiler free thoughts:

  • The Snyder/Whedon divide was extremely noticable and jarring. Snyder shots would be location or set based with sudden cheap looking bluescreen Whedon inserts with incredibly jarring dialogue.

  • There was Snyder material I greatly enjoyed, was neutral to, and disliked.

  • There was Whedon material that I could deal with, and Whedon material I hated. His inserts started off unnecessary; adding absolutely nothing to character or story, but not at his Avengers level cringiness. The longer the film went on the worse his material grew with worsening 'humour' and 'crowd pleasing' that felt at odds with the infinitely more organic and unforced genuine humour from the Snyder directed footage. The exclusively Whedon scenes were also mostly a noticably lower quality in the writing and were certainly noticably lower quality in the filmmaking quality.

  • Just like in the comics, Cyborg sucks and has no place here. I get they want to establish Superman as the first big powerful hero that modern humans are aware of, hence Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter coming later. And I know Geoff Johns has a massive hard-on for Cyborg hence the big push. But damn does he suck the life out of the film every time he's on screen.


Overall I thought it was alright. It was more of the MoS CG reliant Snyder action I have big issues with than the more grounded BvS, but it had some decent character moments sprinkled through the Snyder footage. Overall the Whedon footage didn't ruin it, but it was probably 50% pointless and 50% increasingly damaging to the film.

For me I much preferred it to MoS. But preferred BvS, SS and WW to this. I'm fairly certain a Whedon free cut would have elevated it to quite enjoyed for me. So it's sad it had to be diluted this way.
 
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 6   On Screen / Re: Justice League  on: Nov 16th, 2017, 8:41pm
Started by Nick | Post by snipe
I was hyped for this movie and it did not disappoint me. Going to leave discussion until everyone's (both of you) had a chance to see it.
Wait throughout the credits. There are 2 scenes.
 
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 7   On Screen / Re: Justice League  on: Nov 9th, 2017, 5:04pm
Started by Nick | Post by snipe
I feel you, but I'm getting HYPED for it. I've liked BvS and WW, so I have (guarded) hopes for this one.
 
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 8   On Screen / Justice League  on: Nov 9th, 2017, 12:00pm
Started by Nick | Post by Nick
A week to go, and unlike BvS we haven't been discussing this at length, perhaps a good indicator of our excitement levels? I'm looking forward to it, but have a few concerns:

  • The BvS backlash - I am concerned about studio interference to erase the seriousness and the depth and lighten and simplify into just another MCU film.

  • Joss Whedon - Now I am highly concerned. Reshoots aren't an issue, but this man has me worried, very worried. I don't know what the opinion is of him here, but I hate his writing. Every character he writes in every project he does acts like a sarcastic teenager. Sometimes it feels like every single line is a bad joke. That's fine in Buffy The Vampire Slayer when they are (supposed to be) teenagers, but The Avengers was a fucking embarrassment with the endless cringeworthy dialogue and completely hollow story with pantomime villains. I am truly worried that scenes are going to be ruined by constant sprinkles of Whedon-isms. Wonder Woman at least felt like the humour was organic rather than the smug try-hard Whedon style.

  • Trailers suggest the CG wankfest that BvS mercifully steered away from much more than expected (lame Doomsday aside). Could just be over-representation in trailers to appeal to the big action demographic though. I'm more concerned about the dialogue and over-abundance of 'humour' than the CG, which really shows how much that worries me.

  • Lack of depth - I'm really going to try and let this one slide. I don't particularly enjoy big dumb films with little to no depth or intelligence. I was pleasantly surprised that BvS wasn't all out stupid. But with a big team film like this, it probably doesn't leave a lot of room for deep psychological character studies and emotional resonance, perhaps that comes easier in solo films (if Warner will allow it when audiences have repeatedly made clear they don't like it).


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I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Nonetheless, whatever it is like, I would still really like to have a Whedon-Free Snyder Cut on Blu-Ray just to see what he would have done.


 
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 9   Current Continuity, Issues, and Arcs / Re: So... what are we currently reading?  on: Oct 20th, 2017, 11:33am
Started by TheMidnighter | Post by Nick
Like Snipe, I am also using a 10 inch Android tablet. It is a perfect size for most things I have read on it so far, although one or two things are a little small. I use the Comixology application. I like it for the price of Comixology sales and not having to worry about physical space, but it's not the same feeling as having a Continuity Shelf with all those spines out and reading 1990s Batman on old yellow paper (that wasn't yellow the last time I read this stuff) wink
 
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 10   Off Topic / Re: Dirk's music  on: Oct 20th, 2017, 05:00am
Started by TheMidnighter | Post by TheMidnighter
Cover of Porcupine Tree's Fear of a Blank Planet


Cover of Steven Wilson's Hand Cannot Erase


Cover of 30 Seconds to Mars' The Kill



 
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