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« Thread started on: Jul 10th, 2005, 10:52am »

This topic is to discuss Grant Morrison's work. For example:
The Invisibles
JLA
New X-Men
Mystery Play
Sebastian O
Seven Soldiers
Animal Man
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 23rd, 2005, 05:37am »

I remember you saying you read all of his "Invisibles" titles, Dirk. What did you think of them? Were you as confused as I was?
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 25th, 2005, 07:43am »

Yes I did read them and I loved them.
I was confused reading through TPB 7 but that was partly because I waited so long to start reading after I finished TPB 6, partly because I didn't know that it was all set in the current time... and mainly because TPB 7 is just minkfuck deluxe.

Did you still enjoy the book? I really love this story just for its complexity - you can easily reread this book 3 times and still not get bored by it.

I loved the Jack-o-Dreams' role in all of it. As far as I understand it, that is.
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 25th, 2005, 08:10am »

I personally loved "The Invisibles". I've always been a huge Grant Morrison fan as he is a master storyteller. "The Invisibe Kingdom" was quite mindbending but you've gotta love the ending: "Our sentence is up." Then a big close-up of the full stop. Quality stuff.

Speaking of "The Invisibles", did you ever hear about the aborted BBC adaptation of the comics, Dirk? Apparently it was to be set in Glasgow instead of Liverpool and Jack was going to be a Celtic fan instead of a Liverpool fan. I think that would have been pretty cool. cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 27th, 2005, 2:00pm »

I read about the series on his site, but never anything else.

Our sentence is up, and the entire page before with the sheep to slaughter and stuff, is one of my favorite pieces out of a comic.

Are you currently reading Seven Soldiers by any chance?
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 27th, 2005, 4:09pm »

on Jul 27th, 2005, 2:00pm, TheMidnighter wrote:
I read about the series on his site, but never anything else.

Our sentence is up, and the entire page before with the sheep to slaughter and stuff, is one of my favorite pieces out of a comic.

Are you currently reading Seven Soldiers by any chance?

I haven't heard of that. Is it a Morrison title? What's it about?
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 29th, 2005, 05:27am »

It's awesome. I don't have much time, but read this article or this one.
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 29th, 2005, 06:50am »

That actually sounds like a really good title! Thanks for the heads up, Dirk. cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 27th, 2005, 4:30pm »

I'm still waiting for Vimanarama (Morrison & Bond) but I've already got Seaguy and WE3 in my possesion - let's talk about those.

Seaguy is a cool, fun book: it has a light tone and has funny, wierd characters. It's by no means childish, though. Morrison does his usual, phenomenal job writing the book and so does Stewart, only then drawing it.

Seaguy is superhero, the only catch is, that he is not needed - the world has no need for superheroes. Still, Seaguy and his sidekick Cubby da Choona, a flying, smoking, sailor's hat wearing fish that is afraid of water, try to start adventures. They play chess with Death (and they cheat Death, like any superhero does!), they go to funparks and eat a new, delicious kind of food: Xoo.
Oh yeah, and the moon is crying.
If this all sounds wierd, then you get the general idea cheesy. Now buy the book.
8/10


WE3 is amazing. In every way. Dialogue, art, designs, story and a special kudos to the lay-out: I believe Quitely invented a new way to use frames when 2 jumps through the soldiers, and the panels. Seriously, the use of framework in this book is by itself already worth checking out.

WE3 is a government project that uses lost animals instead of humans as soldiers, so that no one has to die anymore. The project is going to be terminated so WE3 escapes to find the place they call 'home'. Of course, the government is in hot pursuit and they try to get the project back.

This book is awesome, really. The way the art tells the story, the little frames that display so much, the designs, the way you care about these killingmachines -- again, nothing but praise for these two creators.
9-/10
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 4th, 2005, 07:57am »

OK, so I've been bored this weekend and I started reading The Invisibles again after I got them back from lending them. I finished yesterday. "What?! You rushed through one of the greatest pieces of comicglory of all time?! How can you appreciate it?!" Bla bla bla. If it's one thing I've learned so far on my study, it is that human memory sucks a lot harder then we realize so this could actually be a good approach to reading this epic story that really does need for you to remember almost everything.

It's great. I do find it such a shame that Phil Jiminez didn't work on it more... I love that artist (Perez influenced, and that's no bad thing because he's good at it) and actually wished he would've done the entire book (although sometimes the change in artstyle is refreshing).

Argh. I just don't know what to say. Read it. Eventhough you will not understand it entirely during your first trip through the book (or one of the following ones after that), I do assure you that you will know, feel that this is one special story.
If only you read it for the great metaphores and the awesome concepts and creative ideas.
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 5th, 2005, 02:48am »

This is my short review of The Invisibles.


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Learn to become invisible.



The Invisibles is my #1 story of all time. I love, love, love, love, love it. Grant Morrison is my favorite writer. The man writes the most complex, interwoven stories that you (can not, actually) imagine. It's collected in 7 TPB's and they're available from DC/Vertigo.

The Invisibles involves 'terroristic' rebels against the regime, forced order, the repeated, structured, boring everyday life. Both sides of the struggle consists of a lot of people. Every Invisible-cell has 5 members. Jack Frost gets recruted for one of those cells because one of that cell's members, John-A-Dreams, has gone missing - he could very well be in the hands of the enemy, switched sides or dead.
Jack receives training from a bum that isn't sane and who also happens to be a magician, Tom O'Bedlam. Or that's what he claims to be. Jack thinks Tom's full of crap because he doesn't get trained at all.

This is only the beginning of the story and, I have to admit that I do not make it sound interesting at all. That's because I suck at writing. Don't let it fool you: this book is awesome. Mindfuck-alicious. I love it, but I do not think just anyone would - it has to be your thing, the crazy stories, the outrageous theories. You would probably enjoy this more if you'd take drugs with it (I don't do drugs, so I wouldn't know). Reread the books and the experience is even better.

The Invisibles has got everything: magic, aliens, conspiracy theories within conspiracy theories, complexity, theories about the world (which I thoroughly enjoy), transvestite voodoo-magicians, timetravel, 4D, De Sade and, not unimportant, great art (Phil Jiminez draws a big part cheesy).

10/10
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 5th, 2005, 02:49am »

New X-Men hardcovers 1-3


In my opinion, the best X-Men story ever written. (But I'm a Morrison fan.) You may disagree, I will not mind at all, but I think this way.

I love the way Morrison throws the entire status quo around with everything he does. The same happened when he took over writing the X-Men -- he even changed the title from just 'X-Men' to 'New X-Men'.
The characters get shaken up, they change from what they have been for 30 years, into something they would've, should've been, were they real: mature. The changes are personality-wise -- Cyclops isn't the wholesome student anymore, Xavier did horrible deeds when he was young -- and in appearance as well -- Beast and Emma Frost get secondary mutantions.
There's a lot happening in these books and I love it.

The artists on this book have been great as well (with a few exeptions). first, we have Frank Quitely who is, in one word, amazing. I love his art. He made Scott 'Slim' Summers actually look slim again. Quitely gives every character a distinct feel; you can actually recognize them.
We also have other artists, the likes of Van Sciver, Kordey (mwah... I don't like his art), Yu, Bachalo, Jiminez and Silvestri. Not the shabbiest bunch you'll ever see.

Love it. I rate this above his JLA work, which was phenomenal as well.

9-/10
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 7th, 2005, 03:31am »

Here are some quotes I really liked from The Invisibles.


Ask yourself this question: why is it that our species seem so dedicated to the complete destruction of its environment? Why do our actions appear to run counter to our survival? How do we explain humanity's restless consumption of all that lies in its path? How do we account for the hunger that is ravaging the earth?
Have you ever watched a caterpillar on a leaf, my friend? Have you seen the way it devours everything in its path? Things repeat themselves on all scales, from the smallest to the largest. "As above, so below."

-- Elfayed, The Invisibles Vol. 1, #17.

In your world there is only ever the ugly caterpillar. Just as in the world above, only the beautiful butterfly exists. Here in my world, there is change. Only in the solid world can the ugly caterpillar become the beautiful butterfly. Only here.
-- Lord Fanny, The Invisibles Vol. 2, #20.

Once upon a time, the fox came across a scorpion trying to cross the river. "You can ride on my head to the far shore", said the fox. "But only on the condition you prmise not to sting me." "But see, that's my nature,"said the scorpion. "To sting is my nature..."
...Surprise, surprise; halfway across the river, the scorpion up and jabbed his stinger right in the helpful fox's head. "Now we're both gonna die, you dumb old scorpion!" said the fox. "What do you want to go sting me for? I was doing you a good turn." And the scorpion said: "I told you from the start... that is my nature..."

I'm sure you've heard the story before. The scorpion is death; we carry him on our backs towards the far shore. somehow it's always a big shock when he turns around and stings us.
I am become death. The shatterer of worlds.

-- Jim Crow, The Invisibles Vol. 2, #20.
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 6th, 2012, 04:42am »

I have read The Invisibles again over the past two weeks. Why has no one else read this piece of work besides Emma and myself?

EDIT: 1000th post. Hmm, I feel as if I should have done more with it. The best post I can make is to help you start reading The Invisibles so I guess the post was as perfect as can be.
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 7th, 2012, 6:32pm »

I've never read it myself, but I do have this on pre-order: http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=70003

Personally, my favourite Non-Batman Morrison is The Mystery Play. So beautifully written with the most gorgeous art from Jon J Muth of Moonshadow fame.

I have to say, I did quite enjoy The New Adventures Of Hitler. Morrison has a sequel he wants to do to that but no publisher will touch it sad It needs to happen!
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