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« Thread started on: Jul 26th, 2005, 08:02am »

I'm really starting to enjoy Amazing again after the poor "Sins Past" storyline. I've always been very impressed with the way Straczynski has handled the title and breathed new life into it.

#520 was one of the best I've read in a long time. Aunt May having a go at Wolverine was priceless! But a special mention must go to Mike Deodato's pencils. It helps cushion the blow of a great artist like John Romita Jr. leaving the title when we get such a quality replacement. smiley
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 15th, 2007, 2:29pm »

Wow, the previous post was made almost two years ago. Reality just slapped me in the face and made me realize how long I have not been reading my Spider-Man comics...

I am catching up on my comic reading. Having now read all X-Men stuff, I wanted to read Civil War but I remembered Amazing Spider-Man was tied into that and it was a looooong time since I read that. So now, I have to catch up with reading The Spectacular Spider-Man 11-27, Marvel Knights Spider-Man 13-22, The Sensational Spider-Man 23-37, and The Amazing Spider-Man 519-540. Quite a bit, but I don't mind having a lot of comics to read. (I doubt you'd understand...)

I just read the first batch, Spectacular Spider-Man 11-27 and it was great fun. Paul Jenkins wrote almost all of these issues (heck, almost all of this series), and the capable Samm Barnes wrote 23-26. Artists range from great (Mark Buckingham, Paolo Rivera) to 'ugh' (Daimon Scott), as well as having others in between those extremes.

Paul Jenkins is capable of writing very human stories, and that's precisely why he's such a great writer to handle Spider-Man. Spider-Man isn't really Spider-Man; he's Peter Parker. It's different with Batman and Superman -- Bruce Wayne is a mockery, a facade, and I always see Clark Kent as a disguised Superman, not as a real, existing person.
Spider-Man is Peter Parker, a human being with everything that accompanies being human. And it's this aspect of Spider-Man that drags me into the stories; it's a good writer that can keep me that way.

Jenkins writes solid, entertaining stories that are about Spidey's everyday life - nothing galactic, cosmic, or big-impact-on-continuity-or-the-status-quo'ish, and that's good. This batch of comics has an interesting tale about Spider-Man villain The Lizard/Curt Connors; a stand-alone story (#14, with beautiful paintwork by Rivera) about one of New York's citizens; a cool story about an old 'enemy' of Captain America (a story that actually does alter Spidey's status quo); an absolutely awesome poker issue with Dr. Strange, The Human Torch, Reed Richards, The Kingpin and others; a 'doubt'-story; and the beautiful final issue of this series - a story of Peter talking to Uncle Ben about the weight of the world . Especially that last issue is an accomplishment -- everything is perfect, from the story, the dialogue, the little things, to the art, the interaction, and the last page. (It actually reminds me of another one of the same sort of stories, also done by Jenkins and Buckingham: Peter Parker: Spider-Man #33.)
If you're a Spider-Man fan, this bunch of comics will appeal to you.

Barnes wrote 23-26 and this story was a follow-up on the Sins Past storyline, from the pages of Amazing Spider-Man. It deals with Sarah and Gabriel, the twins Gwen Stacy had with Norman Osborn. The story is decent and Barnes seems to have illustrated Paris well (although the story is not as good as Jenkins').

Verdict
This bunch of comics has entertained me a whole lot -- they were perfect for this afternoon, sitting in the garden with the setting sun (setting behind the houses, not the horizon) and a glass of icetea.
8/10
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 16th, 2007, 10:47am »

A rainy day, so not a lot of -but still some!- nice garden reading.

Marvel Knights Spider-Man 13-18
This arc is a sort of pun at Superman, with an alien from another planet being found by two loving farmers and having him grow up on strong, good morals. The farmboy goes into the big city and gets a job at the Daily Bugle as a... reporter. He teams up with Peter Parker, who is a photographer.
The farmboy discovers powers he didn't have and Peter, reluctantly, agrees to help him develop and control his powers.
But there is more to this farmboy than meets the eye. Yes, he is simple and, no, the glasses do not fool anyone. How is it that he keeps discovering new powers? What planet did he even come from?

Verdict
Not at all a groundbreaking story -- and. with six issues, it was kind of stretched -- but it was a nice story, nonetheless. Aside from the over-the-top ridiculing of Superman, I thought it was fun.
7-/10

Amazing Spider-Man 519-524
This story was good. It deals with Peter, MJ and Aunt May moving into the Stark Tower now that Spider-Man is an Avenger. As Emma stated above, this story has good moment and, indeed, Aunt May vs. Wolverine was priceless.
Spidey and his fellow Avengers have to take on Hydra. Not the Hydra we have come to know -- Hydra the laughing stock -- but a Hydra to be reckoned with. They have come up with a truly evil scheme that would put terrorists to shame. Also, they have created copies of some Avengers (Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Hawkeye; this bit is kind of dorky...).

Verdict
I like seeing group-dynamics with Spider-Man in a team, especially when done right. JMS pulls it off, giving every member a distinct voice and character. I like it. Deodato Jr. is an awesome, awesome artist and he has really improved since when I first saw his artwork (around Avengers #385). The nuances he brings to the page are really great. This was solid.
8/10

Spider-Man: The Other
This story encompasses Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 1-4, MK Spider-Man 19-22 and Amazing Spider-Man 525-528. It deals with Spider-Man's totemic powers, revelead earlier on in JMS' arc (then together with the great John Romita Jr.) and what the connection is between him and the Spider.
Morlun is back (huh?) and stalking Peter, who has been having trouble with his Spider powers. It goes wrong more and more, and eventually, Peter is beaten to the brink of death by Morlun. In the hospital, he is attacked by Morlun but, in a last ditch attempt, fights Morlun. Peter dies whilst absorbing Morlun's energy (which Morlun intended to do vice versa). Peter's remains are then taken to Stark's Tower, and Peter has crawled out of his body, as if sheeding his former skin. He then hatches from a cocoon and is born anew, with all his injuries healed.
Whilst inside the cocoon, Peter met with the Spider-God, both embracing each other. This results in Spider-Man having access to a lot more powers than he usually had (they were available to him, but he never let himself be open to them). This is a whole new chapter for Spider-Man.

Verdict
Ugh, this wasn't too good. I did not mind the writing nor most of the art but there were two things I really hated. First, Pat Lee's art. He sucks. He's terrible. I cannot imagine why Marvel put him on Spider-Man. Keep him on the robots but everything with a human face needs another artist because Pat Lee can't draw human beings.
Second, the story itself. Mind you, I said I liked the writing, but the story itself was unnecessary, not even saying anything about how extremely far-fetched it was. Where the hell did Morlun come from? No explanation at all is given how he got back from being decomposed. Why did Spider-Man need to undergo this transformation? The totemic aspect is one thing, but Peter Parker actually shedding his skin, emerging from his own body only to grow an entirely new body? That is far-fetched. Remember guys, he was only bitten by a spider -- eventhough he received powers of the spider (which the totemic aspect is a nice addition to), his genetic make-up is still fundamentally human. Humans do not shed their skin. It really makes no sense, at all.

It really felt as if Marvel wanted to give Spider-Man more powers or something, alter him or whatever. But the execution was terrible and really felt rushed. It's not as if an individual can evolve -- species do.
This story annoyed me. 3/10

Sensational Spider-Man 23-27
It seems mammals -and not only mammals- in New York are starting to act more violent, more aggressive. People are becoming more agitated, monkeys have killed each other in zoo's, et cetera. The Lizard, Wolf-Man, Vermin, the Black Cat and Spider-Man are also affected - even more so, because they are closer to their animal counterparts.
What has caused this development, is what needs to be found out, as well as dealing with the aformentioned Lizard and gang.

Verdict
Apart from being a ridiculous story, it completely ignores the fact that, back in Spectacular Spider-Man 11-13, we learned that Curt Connors was not a beast but actually could think clearly but just made everyone think his 'animal mind took over' or something similar. The art of Angel Medina needs to grow on me (although I did like it on Sam & Twitch: Udaku; maybe it's the colouring) and Clayton Crain's work is really gorgeous. It doesn;t help the story, though.
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 16th, 2007, 1:32pm »

on Jul 16th, 2007, 10:47am, TheMidnighter wrote:
Spider-Man: The Other
This story encompasses Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 1-4, MK Spider-Man 19-22 and Amazing Spider-Man 525-528. It deals with Spider-Man's totemic powers, revelead earlier on in JMS' arc (then together with the great John Romita Jr.) and what the connection is between him and the Spider.
Morlun is back (huh?) and stalking Peter, who has been having trouble with his Spider powers. It goes wrong more and more, and eventually, Peter is beaten to the brink of death by Morlun. In the hospital, he is attacked by Morlun but, in a last ditch attempt, fights Morlun. Peter dies whilst absorbing Morlun's energy (which Morlun intended to do vice versa). Peter's remains are then taken to Stark's Tower, and Peter has crawled out of his body, as if sheeding his former skin. He then hatches from a cocoon and is born anew, with all his injuries healed.
Whilst inside the cocoon, Peter met with the Spider-God, both embracing each other. This results in Spider-Man having access to a lot more powers than he usually had (they were available to him, but he never let himself be open to them). This is a whole new chapter for Spider-Man.

Verdict
Ugh, this wasn't too good. I did not mind the writing nor most of the art but there were two things I really hated. First, Pat Lee's art. He sucks. He's terrible. I cannot imagine why Marvel put him on Spider-Man. Keep him on the robots but everything with a human face needs another artist because Pat Lee can't draw human beings.
Second, the story itself. Mind you, I said I liked the writing, but the story itself was unnecessary, not even saying anything about how extremely far-fetched it was. Where the hell did Morlun come from? No explanation at all is given how he got back from being decomposed. Why did Spider-Man need to undergo this transformation? The totemic aspect is one thing, but Peter Parker actually shedding his skin, emerging from his own body only to grow an entirely new body? That is far-fetched. Remember guys, he was only bitten by a spider -- eventhough he received powers of the spider (which the totemic aspect is a nice addition to), his genetic make-up is still fundamentally human. Humans do not shed their skin. It really makes no sense, at all.

It really felt as if Marvel wanted to give Spider-Man more powers or something, alter him or whatever. But the execution was terrible and really felt rushed. It's not as if an individual can evolve -- species do.
This story annoyed me. 3/10


...and then he woke up and it was all a dream... right?... right?


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« Reply #4 on: Jul 16th, 2007, 1:35pm »

BTW: Humans actually shed and regrow their skin every 27 days.
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 16th, 2007, 3:12pm »

It was no dream. It's real and it's a nightmare.

I'm all for making characters more interesting and I am a big proponent for having characters develop, alter their status quo and, basically, keeping characters as well as stories more interesting, but this was insanely bad.
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 17th, 2007, 4:34pm »

Next batch, in my reading order.

Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 5-10
I don't know what sort of niche this title is suppossed to fill, but if I were to guess, I'd say the niche of completely crappy, totally ridiculous Spider-Man stories. Yeah, that's the stigma I'd give this book.
Man, talk about weird, uncohorent, illogical, unnecessary stories. Issue 5 was kind of fun, but what was it for? I hope David didn't think the readers should be taught that Spider-Man is a good guy who asks for nothing in return, because we know. If not us, then who did he write the story for. Certainly not a fictional character.
But yeah, benefit of the doubt. Next up is the two-parter: Spider-Man wrestling (talk about out-dated -- he did this in the first goddamn comic). Who is he wrestling you ask? None other than a wrestler who has gotten his wrestling powers from some sort of wrestling god. You heard it, folks, a wrestling god. Putting the double 'F' into 'far-fetched. This story falls into the category of Officer Barbrady: 'move along, nothing to see here.'
OK David, you screwed up your benefit of the doubt, but you can make up for your past mistakes. Gives us a decent story. Something like: Spider-Man battling the Hobgoblin... from the year 2211. And that's not all, the father of this Hobgoblin is some sort of Spider-Man. And if that's not all, Hob2211 brings along Uncle Ben from another dimension. Just like that.

Verdict
I really have to laugh about it, or I'll just rip these comics apart and use them to fill my eyeballs so that my retinas are blocked. I really have no idea what lunatic is supervising these stories, but it's horrible. Uncle Ben's from parallel dimensions being brought to the normal 616 universe when Aunt May was finally getting cozy with Jarvis? Wrestling deities? Jenkins could write 'everyday' Spider-Man stories, David cannot.
Sucked, plain and simple. 1/10

Road to Civil War (Amazing Spider-Man 529-531 and New Avengers Illuminati)
With the approaching registration act for superheroes, Stark and Parker go off to some court to try and change the government's mind. It doesn't work. That was it. The foundations are being laid for Civil War, I know. But still, it was pretty useless. (And, reminded me more than a trifle of Road to No Man's Land where Wayne goes to Washington.)
Illuminati was cool. I liked the whole who watches the watchmen aspect of it. I despise it when people make decisions for other, even when they think it's for everyone's best and even if it really would be for everyone's best -- when stuff like this happens, you lose your freedom. That's not worth it. The falling out was nice and I liked Namor's feet on the ground and his absolutism.

Verdict
Seeing as I'm into Civil War now, it laid the foundations for an interesting story. I can keep myself from being spoiled by the internet community so I am actually truly curious to find out how this story will develop.
7/10

Civil War 1-3 and Civil War: X-Men 1-4
As stated, superpowered beings will be required to register themselves with SHIELD and will be trained by them and on their payroll. All this to ensure safety of the American citizen -- I mean, how do you make sure some superhero has control over his power? Exactly. It's the governmental clarity that brings this revolution about. Whilst some superheroes are in favour of this great act (e.g., Iron Man, Spider-Man), some idiots are against it. Idiots like Captain America. The superhero community is split down the middle and sides are chosen. Public opinion seems to be in favour of the registration act.
Cap's side is on the run for the government and considered AWOL by SHIELD.
Meanwhile, Stark has convinced Peter Parker to reveal his public identity to the media and the public. All this to show that it can be done, and should be done.

More of the opposing heroes are getting round up, and Cap's group are busting some out and hiding. When Cap's team is ambushed by Iron Man's, it gets nasty. And that's not even counting the arrival of Thor. (Where does he come from? I'm guessing I'll find out in issue 4.)

Civil War: X-Men is kind of stand-alone. It was needlessly ties into Civil War because it could have done without that paradigm. Nonetheless, it's here. Bishop is pro-registration whilst the X-Men remain neutral. The 198 have broken out and Bishop is trying to get them back. Cyclops, Beast, Iceman and Angel follow Bishop in order to keep him from making things worse. It all ends well.

Verdict
I notice I'm becoming quite brief in my descriptions of the story.
Anyway, Civil War is off to a great start. Millar can write this politically flavoured stuff, and McNiven is talented. The concept is interesting too, although Cap is right. It cannot be denied. (Eventhough on Newsarama boards, an equal amount of people had I'm with Cap as there were people with I'm with Iron Man in their signatures, so I guess my opinion is not how it really is.)
But, why oh why did Peter have to get dragged into this and reveal his identity? This is the weakest aspect of Civil War -- I cannot imagine anything good coming from this in the long run for the Spider-Man titles.
8/10 for Civil War, 7-/10 for Civil War: X-Men.

Sensational Spider-Man 28-34
How does Peter revealing himself to be Spider-Man affected his solo titles? Peter always kept his identity hidden because of possible repercussions from villains on his family. Heroes with a publicly known identity don't get this trouble, but Spider-Man does (of course, because they need a reason for Peter to realize his erronous decision). the school where Peter teaches is in danger, but Spider-Man fixes it; The Chameleon rounds up some villains, but Spider-Man and Aunt May beat them (yes, May too). The Black Cat helps out, as well.

Verdict
I don't like Aguirre-Sacasa's stories. This doesn't have anything to do with the fact that Peter outed himself --mind you, I hate that-- but his stories aren't very strong. I cannot put my finger on it, but it all feels so trivial, so illogical, as if he just begins writing and never looks back to see if it all ties together, or as if he hasn;t even got a clue what the outline of his story is he wants to tell -- he justs writes a Spider-Man adventure, or something.
Clayton Crain's art is absolutely gorgeousm whilst Angel Medina and Sean Chen are so-so.
Sufficient, but that's never a good thing when that's all it is. 6/10

Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 11-16
OK, so we've got an Uncle Ben from a parallel universe -- let's ignore him for 6 months. Spider-Man has bigger fish to fry: teaching science in his class, dealing with an partly-amnesiac Flash Thompson (who acts towards Peter as the bully he used to be), and three Mysterio's. Oh, and the schoolnurse, who is not all she seems to be (which is, just a schoolnurse).
So yeah, Peter's school gets taken over by a Mysterio, another shows up, and another. Blah blah blah. It all works out in the end. The only thing that is of any interest is the schoolnurse. She seems to be the thing that is Peter's/The Spider's opposite when he embraced the Spider-God. When Peter was in a cocoon, she was as well. I mean, I could be mistaken, but the clues aren't exactly hidden: she has stingers shooting from her wrists just like Spider-Man can do now (yeah... I know... lame...) and Spidey notices a cocoon that something broke out of. oh yeah, and she eats spiders.
The Vulture also tries to get Peter, but it doesn't work. Deborah Whitman wrote a book about how Peter Parker ruined her life because he hid he was Spider-Man. Well, yeah, also not really interesting.

Verdict
Although not as shitty as the first batch of comics I reviewed above, this is still pretty worthless. I hate it when comic characters talk out loud when there is no-one with them just so the reader gets explanations. Caption boxes, David? And the constant joking... not from Peter Parker, but it seems from Peter David himself. Making jokes by having Spider-Man say, when seeing a bunch of bats, something along the lines of "bats, maybe I should have dressed up as a bat instead of a spider; striking fear into... nah!" Oh, hardy-har-har.
It's still pretty weak stuff. 4/10.

Bring on the next set of comics: Amazing Spider-Man 532-538 and civil War 4-7.
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 18th, 2007, 1:21pm »

Yes, I'm on a roll.

Civil War, conclusion (Civil War 4-7 and Amazing Spider-Man 532-538)
Civil War is being dumped here in the Spider-Man thread because Spidey is a big player in it and I don;t feel like going into a seperate thread. I'm lazy that way.

Oh OK, so the Thor was actually just a robot/LMD thing? Anyway, the setting is still the same: Iron Man/pro-registration vs. Captain America/anti-registration. Some people defect, others are captured. The anti people are rounded up and placed in cells in the Negative Zone, without trial, without conviction. When Spider-Man learns of this, he feels the end does not justify the means anymore, and defects to Cap's side.

Both sides prepare for the final conflict. Cap's side goes to the Negative zone correctional facility to try and spring their captive allies, whilst Iron Man's ide is waiting for them in an ambush -- they knew about Cap's plan because of a traitor within their ranks. But, Yellowjacket from Iron Man's side is in fact Hulkling (a Skrull) from Cap's side, which means he could have used Yellowjacket's clearance to spring the cells. Which he did. Now, the odds are even.

The fight is taken to New York, where the battle heats up. Buildings are damaged, people are in danger, but both sides are so convinced over their position, they lost sight of what they were fighting for.
In the end, when Cap has Iron Man down, Cap is held down by residents pleading for safety. This strikes a chord within Cap, realizing that he didn;t fight for a goal anymore, but just fought. He endangered other people by fighting -plus, public opinion was in favour of the Superhuman Registration Act- and his own conviction just did not outweigh that -- as he said, they were winning, everything except the argument.

Cap surrendered and is therefor jailed; his allies need to register or are considered outlaws. In short, the SHRA is in effect, and there are consequences.
- Tony Stark is apointed head of SHIELD. So Stark is in control of the information about the identities of superheroes - it could be much, much worse.
- The Initiative is started, a program that trains superheroes (registered, of course) and builds teams for 50 states. These answer to SHIELD and are on their payroll. Amongst those Iron Man's Avengers team the Mighty Avengers, led by Ms Marvel.
- Heroes that refuse to register, are considered outlaws. These include Spider-Man, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Spider-Woman, Dr Strange, Wolverine, Echo and Ronin (Clint Barton, who is resurrected?). This group of people form the New Avengers.

The Amazing Spider-Man issues just depict Spider-Man being Iron Man's second, and changing his opinion. Nothing worth of summarising, but still good stuff and worthy additional material.

Verdict
All in all a very cool event. I like how there is no real resolution - no one actually won. Cap surrendered so they did not win, but Stark actually states this is the new step in superhero evolution and he just feels this solution (as head of SHIELD, for example) is the least harmful for everyone.
If all this would be real, I would still be anti-registration. I'm a man of principals and moral absolutism -- if something is against my values, I will not side with it. In Amazing Spider-Man 536, Peter says it best: "Some people say the most important thing in the world is that we should be safe [pro-registration]. But I was brought up to believe that somethings are worth dying for [anti-registration]."
But I realize I am only one voice - in a democracy, my voice is one amongst many. And that's what can make it difficult to find your peace within it.

I liked this event an awful lot. It was good, it was relevant and it gives rise to interesting possibilities. The only minor point of it was that Spidey has been made to look foolish -- not in the eyes of the Marvel Universe inhabitants, but in my eyes as a reader. Why did he become a pawn and a sucker?
8.5/10

Back in Black is the Spidey stuff that is happening now: he has put on his balck costume again, reflecting his feelings. Several things have happened now that his identity is known to the public. I'll refrain from commenting on that until it is over. What I have read of it is interesting, I'll tell you that. And Sensational Spider-Man Annual #1 was great: Matt Fraction wrote a cool story that is almost stand-alone (although it deals with Parker, MJ and May being fugitives due to Peter not registering, it tells the tale of Peter and MJ) and Salvador Larroca's art is beautiful -- much, much better than his stuff from a couple of years back.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 08:22am »

Due to the bad weather I have been watching a lot of old and newer shows - some I know (the X-Men cartoons from '92) and some I have only heard about, such as Spider-Man The New Animated Series. It's this latter one I'll talk about now.

It's great!

So, that was my talk.

Nah, not really. I and a buddy of mine have seen four episodes of and, really, it's great. Brian Michael Bendis is part of team on the show and it really works: the Peter here is just like Ultimate Peter Parker, actually pretty funny but still an uncomfortable geek'ish person. The episodes are great to watch -the CGI does not need accomodating to- and the stories are solid. Some old villains show up, some new ones, there are faces you'll recognize and others are created just for the show. All in all, great to watch. Tonight I'll watch a couple more with my buddy.
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 21st, 2007, 08:41am »

Civil War annoyed me. I share Dirk's opinion of enjoying seeing things shaken up from time to time, witnessing characters develop over an arc and not just reverting back to the status quo at the conclusion of every storyline. However I think Civil War was just an elaborate way for Marvel to promote it's lesser read titles and boost sales. I liked the story and how it was executed for the most part (save for Spider-Man's reveal which I wasn't too happy about) but I think it dragged on for a bit too long. I have to be honest and say I've skipped reading some of it because I just wasn't interested in the characters that were involved in parts of the storyline but maybe I was just being lazy.

Civil War was heavily hyped as a defining moment in Marvel continuity and had massive potential but I felt a little let down by it in the end. Props to marvel however for killing off Steve Rogers, a brave move but no doubt he'll rise from the grave at some point.

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« Reply #10 on: Oct 4th, 2008, 05:09am »

Anybody else having a hard time finding ASM? Jesus! Every week its sold out at all three of the shops I check. Snipe, is this thing selling like hot cakes with crack in 'em at your store?
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 4th, 2008, 07:10am »

No, it's selling like shit for us. I've actually got the entire run on ebay right now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=250301181215

If you win it, I'll throw in all the issues since. Just let me know.
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 4th, 2008, 2:29pm »

Holy snaps!

You got any varient covers?

Also, what would you consider a decent offer?
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 4th, 2008, 5:15pm »

Only if it's 50/50 variant. Win that or I can probably put you together another set for what ever that sells for.
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« Reply #14 on: Mar 11th, 2009, 5:17pm »

As a little boy I used to watch Spider-Man on TV and thought that it was the greatest thing ever. Of course, I thought it was just that the cartoon was great and the comics were for grown ups (like 16 year olds) but when I finally got my hands on some comics (at a grocery store that surprised me by having some because I wasn't cool or grown up enough to go into a comic shop) I realized Spidey is just as cool, if not cooler, in comics. This was all before J. Michael Straczynski and Joe Quesada had anything to do with Spider-Man.

As you can probably tell, I've just finished reading One More Day but before I share my feelings on that particular arc let me explain about Straczynski's other work and its impact on me. Initially, I, like just about everyone else, thought Straczynski was a genius based on his initial work on Spider-Man comics. His stuff with Ezekiel and Morlun was, as the title states, amazing. The way he wrote Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson and their strained relationship was spectacular. His handling of events such as 9-11 and Aunt May discovering Peter was Spider-Man was flawless. In short, he was exactly what Spider-Man needed.

In 2002 Spider-Man hit the big screen (which had me bouncing off the walls). The film, however, upset millions of fans by giving Spider-Man organic webshooters. The debates on SuperHero Hype still haunt so much that I just shuddered when I typed 'organic webshooters.' I just did it again. Anyway, around this time Straczynski's stories about Morlun and Ezekiel became stories about 'The Other.' Generally, I read about comics before reading the comics. This was a disappointment to read about. I grew up though and realized it doesn't matter where the **** webbing comes from. I accepted it and, hell, it even grew on me. Then came Civil War which reading about made me downright mad but when I got the actual comics, I loved it. Civil War, in my opinion, is a masterpiece. I have no complaints. Spider-Man was done perfectly during this and I can dig his identity being public knowledge.

This brings us to One More Day. As I tweeted earlier today, it is "the worst piece of shit comic ever." One More Day has us celebrate the marriage of Peter Parker and Mary Jane, showing us how great it is, while destroying it. Probably wouldn't have been so bad if it had been a divorce issue or a death of MJ issue but it was, of all things, a retcon. The one thing that, in my opinion, is hurting the DCU more than anything. You erase 20 years of history and expect to patronize the reader by making it seem that you don't want to. We all know the backstory. Quesada does not like Spider-Man being married and feels that divorced is worse. Unfortunately, Straczynski's writing has been hampered by the worst editorial decisions ever. Quesada has spent the past few years flipping Spider-Man's world upside down and now says, "Gotcha!" And none of it matters. The one thing that should've been changed, the whole Gwen Stacy/Norman Osbourne thing, remains unchanged. Harry Osbourne is back alive and Spider-Man, apparently, is Peter Pan and can never grow up because the writers can't make a married adult Spider-Man sell. All this notwithstanding, we mustn't forget the insane premise. Mephisto offers Spider-Man a deal and he accepts. Who wasn't reading this and wondering what's to stop May from getting hit by a bus next week or having a stroke in a year? What about the ultimate 'piss off' to the fans? Spider-Man lives by 'with great power comes great responsibility.' Does altering time and space and millions of lives and allowing a demon to take a love that he claims comes along once in a millenia and will piss off God sound responsible to anybody? That whole "great power" thing goes out the window when it'll adversely affect Spidey? How is this love so special that these two can decide to throw it away to save someone who, undoubtedly would probably rather die so she can be reunited with her husband Ben. Ever think about that Spidey? Your talking to a demon who confirms heaven and hell exist. This story, in my opinion is worse than all the clones, all the crisises and all the-- Hell, this is worse than the movie, Batman & Robin. This SUCKED!
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