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« Thread started on: Jun 25th, 2012, 07:45am »

Has anyone seen this show? Is it interesting and any good? I think it might be a lot more interesting than watching a fully developed Superman but, on the other hand, if it sucks, it will still be boring to watch.
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 26th, 2012, 2:43pm »

I saw an episode of Lois & Clark at an impressionable age. That did it for me as far as Superman and modern television.

Oddly, two of the guys who wrote episodes for the back alley abortion mentioned also wrote this:

http://www.amazon.com/Profit-Complete-Series-Adrian-Pasdar/dp/B0007WQGZE

It's a fascinating sleight of hand that was pulled -- a bunch of Melrose Place sketches/corporate whores, with all the attendant cliches, being maneuvered and destroyed by the purest, most morally ambiguous character ever put in a primetime drama (best of all, he's the protagonist) -- and it probably should have been the '*it* show of the back-half of the 90s. Which is why it wasn't.

If there's a television show you haven't seen but should, this is probably it. Profit is dated in decor and tech (to an embarrassing degree at times), yet the central character is still -- even amongst the Vic Mackeys and the Dexters that he spawned -- unmatched in complexity and near-complete lack of sentimentality or remorse.

A monster/child that sleeps naked in a cardboard/corporate box and hates television, while starring in a tv show and working for that same company (meta!). Not only a hateful love letter to corporate America, it was also acerbically self-aware of tv's trite and manufactured baseline; what Jim Profit was sent to destroy teleplay after teleplay and, yet, also preserve.

No wonder he was only around for 8 episodes. Too topical, and accurate about those topics, for tv in the 90s, Profit's only gained in relevance since.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 27th, 2012, 12:58am »

Series 1 started out pretty interesting, but (like any show that uses this format) got dull pretty fast with the 'monster of the week' approach.

Series 2 started to drag.

Series 3 was miserable.

Series 4 was so bad I quit.


I was a lot younger back then, and in those days I stuck with shows a lot longer simply because I had watched since the beginning. These days with such limited free time I am much less tolerant and would probably quit a lot sooner.

Smallville had some interesting stories, but they were all so laboriously strung out. So many times he starts flying, then forgets about it. I think this is a wider problem with American television. When you have a 22 episode series it is impossible to keep up a focus without significant stalling of the main plot with filler episodes. Compare that to the 12 episode format of shows like Deadwood in which the tension never relents and you have 12 hours of gripping television where every episode is driving the plot forward. I don't like the 22 episode format where you get a whole irrelevant 'monster of the week' episode with a scene of tacked on plot development somewhere in there just so you can't skip it.

I caught episodes of Smallville here and there over the remaining series, but it looked consistently crap. Original decent characters gradually left and were replaced by annoying asshats like Jimmy Olsen and Green Arrow. Oh, and EVERY hero and villain in the DCU existed BEFORE Superman, just so you know.
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But there is one thing to thank Smallville for:

In 2008 DC created a book they wanted to be a critical and commercial failure starring a character they hate. They wondered which idiot they could trick into taking the bait to try to launch a career with an already doomed book. So they plucked that young inexperienced writer from Smallville and gave him a book named Batgirl and waited to see him fail thus 'proving' only Barbara Gordon can be Batgirl and that Stephanie Brown sucks. Only the young writer Bryan Q Miller caused major problems in the DC editorial, because not only did he write one of their most well written and enjoyable books in years (maybe ever?), but he also proved without a doubt that Barbara was best off as Oracle, and Stephanie Brown was the ultimate Batgirl. But then the book was always intended to be a failure, so DC decided that it was and that was that, because we're not allowed good things.

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« Reply #3 on: Jun 27th, 2012, 02:52am »

OK, I won't watch it cheesy.
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 2nd, 2012, 06:09am »

Just join this forum and really looking forward to share my experiences.



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« Reply #5 on: Jul 2nd, 2012, 12:35pm »

OK, welcome the the forums and see that you do share your experiences.
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