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The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Dec 23rd, 2006, 8:11pm

Well since the Game forum is now in internet hell with the Fan Art Forum (RIP Using Snipe's side for image hosting), I figured all you extreme nerds would enjoy debating over the latest and greatest video games out today.

Sony sucks, they destroyed Playstation, end of story. Normally we'd discuss that , but I'm just putting that out there right now for you to know that I am right you are wrong.

Now bask with Gears of War! Bask angry
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Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Dec 23rd, 2006, 9:50pm

I bought my nephew Justice League Heroes (ps2) for Christmas. It looked pretty cool. Martian Manhunter kicks ass on it...
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Dec 23rd, 2006, 10:32pm

I've been playing Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories non-stop before, during, and after my tests and it rocks. I've played Vice City years ago until near-completion, and I'm just as hooked right now. Great game.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Dec 23rd, 2006, 10:34pm

I just got done with Oblivion...... yes.... you can get done with Oblivion. That game owned me for 9 months and nearly made my 360 explode.

Grand Theft Auto was fun years ago, but it's kinda aged a bit. Weird saying that, but I'm enjoying Saints Row much more than I did all the other Theft Autos. shocked
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by GrayFox on Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:35pm

Id like to point out that I pwned Clerk at Gears of War. We did co-op for the 1st level with him doing most of the harder shit since I was getting my feet wet still. Upon completion all of awards points were given to me and not him. cheesy So the key is folks, be the #2 player if you want kudos.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by BatmansIronFist on Jan 16th, 2007, 1:58pm

Gears of War is a good game, I own it and have beaten it....not on insane yet (not because of difficulty mind you) I just find the game to get old........ I have to let it rest for a little bit before I put it back in and play some more. The online play is sick! I suck at it but its pretty cool.


Halo 2 however.......truly eternal for online play, i play religiously, not the best but I love to play. Anyone who has Xbox Live, hit me up at BatmansIronFist!


Ps3, I see going downhill, just personal opinion though.


Justice League Heroes, though not out for the major line consoles was still able to rank in the top 3 for games of the year....definitely worth checking out, ill be renting soon!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jan 22nd, 2007, 10:10pm

Poor Playstation 3.... I have yet to hear of anyone who wants one to have one..... If Metal Gear Solid 4 actually goes to 360, Sony is FUCKED. cool
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by BatmansIronFist on Jan 23rd, 2007, 12:04am

on Jan 22nd, 2007, 10:10pm, Clerk wrote:
Poor Playstation 3.... I have yet to hear of anyone who wants one to have one..... If Metal Gear Solid 4 actually goes to 360, Sony is FUCKED. cool


you mean more so than they already are?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jan 24th, 2007, 05:26am

I guess I don't follow the news about the next-gen consoles (I know I don't) but I want a PS3. Why wouldn't I? What's going wrong with sony and the PS3?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jan 24th, 2007, 11:51am

Apart from the high price tag and lack of top quality games so far, nothing but the usual shit that happens with most new consoles

Within the next six months it'll have some great games. And if sites like Play.com and Amazon.co.uk are correct, Europe will be getting a very good selection of launch games


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jan 24th, 2007, 6:36pm

Well everyone knows it'll chug along like Xbox and Gamecube, but the key event everyone is laughing about is how Sony shot themselves in the foot many a time and lost the lead to a thing called the "Wii."

On the games note, all I have seen so far is the Final Fantasy games and Metal Gear Solid 4. It lost Virtua Fighter 5 and Assassins Creed as exclusives to the 360.

And seriously......600$?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on Jan 26th, 2007, 12:24am

All of that data is based on units sold of Wii consoles vs. PS3s. PS3 brought in way more money than Nintendo.

Additionally, Nintendo shipped 4 million Wii consoles by Christmas whereas Sony just recently got finished shipping the last of its first 2 million PS3s.

Finally, and probably more importantly, while Sony only sold 491,000 PS3s to Nintendo's 604,000 Wii consoles... people actually went out and bought 1.4 million PS2s. Personally, I think that figure shows that when there was a lack of PS3s people settled for PS2s or most folks are waiting for the price to drop. Nintendo did sell the most of one console with the Nintendo DS selling 1.6 million units but Sony sold 953,200 PSPs.

As for games, Tekken 6, MGS4, FFXIII, RE5, Devil May Cry 4, and Virtua Fighter 5 will help PS3 pull ahead of the Wii. XBox 360 gets Virtua Fighter months after PS3, btw.

Personally, I didn't get a PS2 because of the price when it initially released. I paid full price eventually just because I wanted Resident Evil Code Veronica X. I'm sure the fact that everything at launch sucked had a huge impact on sales. Wii had Zelda. I think January 2008 would be a good time to have this discussion again.

I'd have to say that with these large fucking numbers it's hard to say that any of these companies are in any trouble thus far. It can all only be interpretation of figures and predictions of what said figures mean in the future. For now, all three companies made a shitload of money.

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by BatmansIronFist on Jan 26th, 2007, 05:33am

on Jan 26th, 2007, 12:24am, midLfinger wrote:
All of that data is based on units sold of Wii consoles vs. PS3s. PS3 brought in way more money than Nintendo.



No shit

Wii - 250 bucks

Ps3 - 600 bucks

wii has to sell 2 to come close to the sale of 1 ps3.

Ur such a mass debater finger boy, i missed ya cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on Jan 26th, 2007, 8:14pm

on Jan 26th, 2007, 05:33am, BatmansIronFist wrote:
No shit

Wii - 250 bucks

Ps3 - 600 bucks

wii has to sell 2 to come close to the sale of 1 ps3.

Ur such a mass debater finger boy, i missed ya cheesy


Yeah... I should shut up. Sorry, guys... ignore what I said before.

Note: I am not being sarcastic. Seriously, ignore what I said.

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jan 27th, 2007, 10:38pm

Yeah, it's estimated the PS3 will cost 599,- in the Eurozone, which is quite a lot of money. I'm not about to spend that. I'll wait when I've finished with my PS2 games and my study and see again.
I love Final Fantasy XIII en MGS4 already, though. Damn those trailers are good.

I guess I'm just a PlayStation fan.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 7th, 2007, 6:10pm

You guys read the latest article from EGM? The cover story is "What went wrong with the Playstation Launch" and is a pretty decent read. It doesn't completely blast the Ps3, but doesn't praise it too much either.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Sep 21st, 2007, 5:18pm

I got in the Crysis Multiplayer Beta cool

Can't say nothing as i'm under NDA

Never palyed an online game before, but i'm having fun and it's a good way to kill an hour or so
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Sep 21st, 2007, 7:22pm

I've been trading off hours of sleep for hours of playing Final Fantasy XII. I've disregarded scientific articles, I've neglected to get down my washed and dried up clothes, all to progress in the story and get more enjoyment out of this game.

It's an amazing chapter in the Final Fantasy series, perhaps second best (of the ones I've played, which is from VII onwards; VI didn't work, although it's original PSX) only to Final Fantasy VI.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Sep 29th, 2007, 6:42pm

gotta get me FF 7 on playstation. I got it on PC.....but i can only imagine the hell i'd have to through to get it to work on Vista, if it even works on it all.

I'm gonna have to get a PSP soon too. Crisis Core, God Of War and Silent Hill look immense

Crisis Core

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24144.html

God Of War

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21681.html?type=mov

Silen Hill

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25374.html?type=mov

I really like the song in this trailer. I'm trying to find it. but no luck so far angry
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 7th, 2007, 01:52am

Wow, those are some finger-licking visuals. I really like how smooth it all looks - the movement of the images is really fluid.

But then again, I think we are all in agreement that your avatars are always the finest and a pleasure to watch.

On to the games. (Yes, it was an easy joke to make. I do not feel low for making it, I feel like I have fulfilled an obligation.) That FFVII: Crisis Core is looking amazing. I get completely excited about the entire story again when just seeing it.
I would even consider buying a PSP just for that game. Perhaps even that supercool FFVII PSP they show in the end.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Oct 8th, 2007, 2:36pm

Yes, my avatar is very appealing grin

Anyway, I ended up ordering the crisis core bundle last week and it came this morning. It's quite immense

Got it here http://www.games-asia.com/pspplaystationportableslimmodelcrisiscorefinalfantasy-p-2688.html?cPath=32_74

I thought since i'm gonna get a PSP, why not get that one. Had a qucik blast on the game. Awesome cut scene to start off, and then into your first battle, where i whooped ass easily. Combat is real time. You use the right shoulder button to cycle through your attacks and you can block and dodge too. Gonna look for some gudies with English translations later on

Also got FF 7 from Amazon marketplace. About 14. Been playing it like crazy. Just arrived at Fort Condor after about 8 hours. I think i'm gonna be playing this for a long, long time. The remake will probably be out by the time i've finished


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Oct 11th, 2007, 7:55pm

Is anyone else's life being completely owned by Halo 3?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 23rd, 2007, 10:21am

Man, Chaos, can we be best friends? I would love to steal your FF PSP.

8 hours Fort Condor. You are a driven person! Do you get anything from the story or is it all about gameplay for now?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Oct 27th, 2007, 5:54pm

I'd have to kill you if you tried to take my PSP lol


I'm enjoying the story of FF 7 very much. Gameplay is fine, but really it's just random battles or boss battles

Just got out that amusment park on acid, golden saucer or whatver the fuck it's called. And now i'm spose to go to Gongaga, but as that wolrd map seems totally fucking useless, i'm having a hard time getting there

I'll get back into it now. Not played for awhile cause i got Metal Gear Solid 3 substance and wanted to finish it. It probably took me about 30 plus hours to complete. Fucking immense game. Love the Jungle setting. After an hour or so of getting used to how to survive in there, i was a fucking beast. i was tactical as fuck. I wold lie in wait in the grass for like 15 mins observing the guards routine and formulating my attack plan. I fucking can't wait for MGS 4 cool
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Nov 19th, 2007, 12:30pm

I got Gears Of War for My Pc Saturday. It's pretty cool

What i like: 1)Chainsawing people in half is awesome! The curb stomp is sweet too
2) On the part where it's raining you can see the water running down the pillars and shit. Stunning

What i don't like:1) Having the spacebar peform about 5 functions. It's most annoying when you're trying to roll from that beserker thing and you end up going into cover and getting killed
2) The A.I of your squadmates. They are retarded. I'm on the last bit now and he's running straight in front of the boss and getting taken down all the time and i can't get to him without dieing. It's fucking pssing me off angry angry angry angry



Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Dec 12th, 2007, 9:16pm

Anyone here have a Wii?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Dec 15th, 2007, 11:23am

Nope

Downloaded the Burnout Paradise trailer today. It's fucking awesome. My fave thing to do is drive on the wrong side of the road using turbo and see how long i can last without wrecking my car. My record is about 45 seconds so far

And here's the two new FF 13 trailers that just came out

Final Fantasy 13 Extended Trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/146558.html

Final Fantasy Versus 13 Extended

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/146533.html

Man, that dude in versus is fucking ubber bad ass. Surley you aren't going to be that powerful in the game. You'd be invincible
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by JTurner954 on Jan 25th, 2008, 08:44am

on Dec 12th, 2007, 9:16pm, Clerk wrote:
Anyone here have a Wii?


I get a new console for every year I work at Target. If they include "Super Mario RPG" on their Virtual Console section, I'll buy a Wii [in April]

If not, I'll go for a 360 or a DS though I would still play the PS2 constantly (which has more life than PS3, IMO. I don't see Blu-Ray as a necessity).
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Feb 29th, 2008, 5:47pm

downloaded the PSP demo fo God Of War

It's fucking awesome. Can't wait to get it

Also downloaded Patapon. Jesus Christ this thing is addictive. I woke up this morning with pata-pata-pata-pon song in my fucking head
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 1st, 2008, 09:47am

The game I have been playing is Legends of Dragoon, an original PSX RPG. The story is pretty interesting for now, but I need to have a lot of free time to play this because everything is so slow (and pixel-countable). The battle system is interesting with the combo's, though.
But yeah, no free time as of now to really play an RPG.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 1st, 2008, 10:38am

Bioshock is amazing, has anyone played that? Seriously wipes Halo 3's single player campaign across the floor.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Mar 1st, 2008, 11:23am

Not really hard to have a better single player mode than Halo as it's an average FPS and it's main thing is multi player

Anyway, played the Bioshock demo. It looked pretty good. Didn't buy it cause of the rootkit 2K decided to put in it and fuck over the PC gamers angry


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 2nd, 2008, 4:43pm

Metal Gear Solid 4 will probably disappoint with the story once again. cry
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on Mar 2nd, 2008, 6:00pm

on Mar 2nd, 2008, 4:43pm, Clerk wrote:
Metal Gear Solid 4 will probably disappoint with the story once again. cry


Which one didn't you like, Clerk?

I thought 2 became a bit of a clusterfuck but I thought 3 went back to being really good.

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 3rd, 2008, 01:43am

Metal Gear Solid was able to present the craziest circumstances in a realistic fashion, like Psycho Mantis.

Metal Gear Solid 3, I loved the Naked Snake plot dont get me wrong, but everything with the bosses was shit crazy, and I don't think MGS4 looks like it'll be any better. What good is the layered main plot when the actual gameplay revolves around the weirdest character arcs?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Mar 3rd, 2008, 12:03pm

The shit crazy bosses are awesome in MGS 3 IMO. The fight with "The End" is one of, if not the best boss fight ever. It's a total war of attrition. It can last many,many hours. The Jungle setting is immense too. I didn't want to leave it. I was a total beast in the Jungle

MGS 4 is gonna be full of crazy shit too. Metal Gear ain't Metal Gear unless there's insane story elements and crazy characters and bosses

Just 3 over months till it comes out now too. I can't wait cool
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Apr 2nd, 2008, 12:37am

Just beat Bioshock, almost done with The Simpsons Game (Funny but mheh), replaying Conker's Bad Fur Day and want the semster the end so I can start Mass Effect. cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 2nd, 2008, 10:23am

what a coincidence, i just finished Bioshock myself the other day lol

All the reviewers were spot on about it. Fucking awesome game. When i played the demo i wasn't that impressed with the visuals, yeah it looked nice but not that impressive. As you progress you see how good the graphics are though. The bit were you see the Little Sisters hideout is fantastic. The animation is stunning



Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Apr 2nd, 2008, 3:03pm

The bit that stuck out with me was the theatrical guy's hideout (forgot his name). Where all the splicers were enclosed in the plaster and all the fancy drama dolls were hanging with neon lit signs. Twas awesome.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Apr 7th, 2008, 12:54pm

Zomg the Simpsons game end boss was AWESOME!!! Dance Dance Revolution to Rock You Like A Hurricane w God
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 29th, 2008, 4:25pm

I got GTA 4 today

I wasn't going to originally, but after all them 10 reviews i decided i would give it a punt

Takes a few hours to get into. The cars fucking slide everywhere. If you get a fast car and try and corner and high speed......you're fucked. So getting good at driving is gonna be a challenge. Got a gun now and from the looks of it the new cover and targetting system should work well once i get the hang of it.

The TV show and adverts you watch are hilarious. You could easly waste many hours watchinf them. I also like the places where you take your freinds and dates. You can go bowling, play pool and Darts. You can also go to pubs and the strip club. Getting drunk is funny. You wobble and fall over everywhere. Don't try and drive or you get the cops after you, plus you fucking crash anyway.

I have no money at the mo cause i spent it all getting lap dances at the strip club grin




Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on May 6th, 2008, 10:50am

I have received MGS3: Subsistence just now. Unfortunately, I am in the middle of replaying Final Fantasy VII in anticipation of Crisis Core (and I also have to get my hand on Dirge of Cerberus, still).
FF7 is still the best game I have ever come across. What strikes me is that, even though in FF10 and FF12 the story lines are great too, in FF7 the characters are a lot more fleshed-out: they have real personalities and, most importantly, backgrounds. I just met Cid for the first time and it amazed me to see how his character was clear instantly. And the same holds for someone like Barret, or Cloud, Aerith.

Awesome. I love the cheesy graphics. I doubt that if the game would be remade with better graphics (which was a discussion after the technical demo for the PS3 was shown) would work -- the cheesy graphics work well with the movements the characters make. It is a big part of the appeal.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on May 7th, 2008, 12:09am

The driving in GTAIV is pissing me off. There's a trick somewhere I can't figure out yet, and I dont think the internet has either.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by theQuestion on May 7th, 2008, 11:04am

on May 7th, 2008, 12:09am, Clerk wrote:
The driving in GTAIV is pissing me off. There's a trick somewhere I can't figure out yet, and I dont think the internet has either.


lol
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by JTurner954 on May 22nd, 2008, 4:20pm

http://ultra-awesome.blogspot.com/2008/05/nes-coffee-table-final-post-rah.html
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on May 24th, 2008, 03:00am

Coffee table is cool, but the guy's girlfriend is zomg hot. cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jun 9th, 2008, 09:53am

3 days
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jun 10th, 2008, 5:36pm

Until MGS4? Wait seriously?

Also Snipe, look who is in Lego Batman:

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Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Jun 10th, 2008, 6:13pm

on Jun 10th, 2008, 5:36pm, Clerk wrote:
Also Snipe, look who is in Lego Batman:


HELLS YEAH!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by theQuestion on Jun 10th, 2008, 8:23pm

lmao
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jun 11th, 2008, 3:44pm

In about 14 hours i will have MSG 4

I can't fucking wait smiley
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by theQuestion on Jun 11th, 2008, 4:14pm

let me know if it was worth the wait.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Assassin32 on Jun 17th, 2008, 11:13pm

I hear MGS4 is the greatest thing in the history of everything. Unfortunately, I don't have the time in my life right now to devote to playing it, and I'm trying to be very frugal as I am in the process of buying my first home.

But once I get things in order, I'm gonna play the shit out of that beautiful, beautiful game.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jun 18th, 2008, 07:01am

Metal Gear Solid 4 is the greatest game ever made

Kojima is a god and his team are man-gods. It's just mind blowing what they have achieved


So many draw dropping and mind blowing things happened that i lost count


It's a real gauntlet of emotions. I felt excited, worried, uncomfortable and sad in places


When you look up the word "hero" in the dictionary it should have a picture of Solid Snake


Going to start my second playthough later. Tons of stuff to collect and things to find, plus i just wanna play it again


I wish it didn't end at all

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by theQuestion on Jun 18th, 2008, 09:48am

The ending with Big Boss pretty much made the game a 10/10 for me.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jun 18th, 2008, 12:27pm

I youtubed the whole game, looks like total fanservice. Which is awesome, the ending was the coolest thing ever.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Sep 29th, 2008, 10:58am

Got Devil May Cry 4 for 14.99 abd Crisis Core for 12.99 from HMV friday

Devil May Cry is basically 3 on steriods. Same thing with Resident Evil 4

It's pretty good. The camera is pretty shitty though. Why the fuck it's not 3d is just stupid
I actually like being Nero more than Dante. That weird arm Nero has is great for grabbing onto enimes and getting behind them so you can fuck them up big time

for 14.99 can't really complain

Crisis Core is obviously much easier when you know wtf you are suppose to be doing. It's awesome. I'm gonna start doing some the side missions so i can power up some. There's a big fucker that whooped my ass on my jap version coming up soon. So i need to be more powerfull for that cunt
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Oct 7th, 2008, 11:43pm

The Ghostbusters game will be God.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Oct 8th, 2008, 05:17am

It does look fun.
Anyone got a copy of MVP Baseball 2005 for PC they'd like to get rid of?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Oct 8th, 2008, 4:06pm

Isn't Ghostbuster in limbo at the mo?

Anyway, i finnaly got a beta code for Little Big Planet

It's genius. Some of the stuff people have made is nuts. I played an amazing Shadow Of The Colossus level and i cool Metal Gear - return to Shadow Moses

And check this one out

http://kotaku.com/5059808/littlebigplanet-can-do-your-math-homework

Your jaw will hit the floor when it pans up to show you the mechanics behind it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Oct 13th, 2008, 5:08pm

I beat Force Unleashed. Game was eh, good fandom stories, force powers were awesome, but combat sucked. Fuck "force shield deflector" bullshit.

Anyone play Lego Batman?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Nov 8th, 2008, 3:52pm

Got Little Big Planet the other day. It's awesome. I'm having so much fun going through the story mode collecting shit. I want get 100% on them all, which is gonna take multi replays to acheive. I'm also doing all the prize levels i can find online. Want to get as much stuff as i can for when i start to make my own levels.

Also got God Of War on my PSP. It's fucking immense. It looks incredible. It's pretty close to looking as good as the PS2 versions. My hands are fucking killing me from playing that shit out of it. Battery is drained too lol

Resistence 2 is on the way as well

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Nov 11th, 2008, 10:22pm

Fable 2 is good, but I fear its going to be a short game. My roomie got Call Of Duty 5........ looks mheh, but I heard Gary Oldman is in it so perhaps I am wrong.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Dec 15th, 2008, 02:23am

I've played Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core and finished it last week. I really love the game in its portayal of Zack and the other characters we already knew from the original FFVII.

What I disliked about the story is that we now have even more characters. I related all these additional properties of the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII to the original game and have to see if it is an addition to the roginal game. I do not like the addition of the character Genesis. It is a cool character to be sure but I do not see why he was needed to expand on the original. Especially since he is seen at the ending of Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus.
Angeal was OK.

But man, the gameplay is sweet. I like the dodging ability and materia fusion. The DMW spinning reel is nice to but not so when you want to show a cool summon to your brother. The most interesting part of the 300 missions are the briefings because the missions themselves just mean killing enemies (which is fun, but still).

And the ending is just great. The DMW slots fading until only Aerith is left. I will see the whole romance thing in FFVII completely different now.

I loved the game. It paid off and I am a hardcore fan of the original.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Dec 17th, 2008, 3:57pm

I haven't plaed Crisis Core for a while. I must get back to it. That cut scene with the Sethiroph, Angeal and Genesis is fucking amazing. I hate Genesis too. Fucking emo fag. I hope i get to kill him

Got Force Unleashed Friday. Blockbuster had it on sell for 25, but i had 5 credit there so for 20 i thought it was a good deal. When i went to pay for it, they said i had 8 credit. So only coost 17. It's pretty good. Not really much use for a lightsaber except throwing at people. The ending totaly suck shit though

Also for UK people here, Argos have a load of games for half price. I picked up Prince of Persia, Saints Row 2 and Bioshock all for 20 each. Fucking awesome deal

Not played any of them yet. Got back into playing Oblivion game of the year edition. 103 hours i've racked up so far. Doing the Shivering Isles at the mo. That's a fucked up place. just about everyone is bat shit crazy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Dec 17th, 2008, 5:15pm

on Dec 17th, 2008, 3:57pm, Chaos wrote:
The ending totaly suck shit though


I heard you could get like 5 different endings.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Dec 19th, 2008, 07:31am

That cutscene on the gun of Junon is indeed great. I wish they'd've gone with a more 'rock'-song -- the type that is present throughout the game actually -- instead of the solo piano, which decreases the impact and, thus, the coolness.

Yesterday I beat the last mission against the Goddess of the Planet. I rock! I now have completed 100% of the missions and will now do New Game+ on Hard Mode.

Coincidentally, I am moving to Cambridge in January so I might just try to find an Argos there cheesy.

Pff, when will the price of a PS3 drop to the level where I think it's worth it? I want to play MGS4 but, man, these things are too expensive for their own good.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jan 30th, 2009, 2:38pm

Fallout 3 is fun, but I expected better. It's weird, like the world is so detailed and torn apart that it almost becomes bland. It does make me miss Oblivion's beautiful green mountains and amazing rivers.

Call Of Duty World At War is owning my life on multiplayer. I hit level 40, almost there to 65!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Feb 5th, 2009, 10:47am

Oblivion is awesome

I put nearly 120 hours in it, but for me Fallout 3 is much better

It's much more immersive. You had magic in Oblivion to heal yourself, but in Fallout 3 you can be forced to drink out of toilet to heal yourself. Vats is immense. I thought watching them would lose it's charm very quickly....but seeing body parts explode never gets old. The best thing his the exploring. It feels proper manly hiking through the wastelands exploring and scavanging with your faithul dog

Got Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 for 10 the other day too. Not plyed it yet though. Do busy with Fallout
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 6th, 2009, 9:25pm

I'm thinking that I have yet to hit the good stuff. I havn't found Rivet City yet. Wasn't even aware a dog was in this game.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by raineydaze on Feb 11th, 2009, 02:58am

I didn't see anyone else post this. This is the new Batman Video Game Trailer. http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14273491/batman-arkham-asylum/videos/batman_trlr_joker_020209.html

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Feb 12th, 2009, 1:27pm

on Feb 6th, 2009, 9:25pm, Clerk wrote:
I'm thinking that I have yet to hit the good stuff. I havn't found Rivet City yet. Wasn't even aware a dog was in this game.



Well unless you got the PC version where you can make it so he just gets knocked out instead of killed (like it shoul've been anyway)

if you do find him just keep him in your house or send him back to vault 101. He attacks everything he see's and since he can sense enemies way before you, he just runs off to fight them. He's awesome with the cheat though. Not only his he a great early warning, you can get him to find meds and ammo. He can even open chest and shit that are locked.

Found this place to today called Evergreen Mills. Huge score. I must have gotten about 15 guns after i killed all the raiders. Got a load of caps from a safe in one of the buildings there too. A great haul today


Downloaded the Resident Evil 5 and Killzone 2 demos the other day too

RE 5. The controls are awful and you still can't move and shoot....not that would make much difference considering how fucking slow you move. You also can't pause to use you herbs and shit either. Trying to get some stuff from that bitch (cause she grabs everything before you) while a load of zombies are surrounding you is impossible. Looks like they just copy/pasted the village from 4 too. Not getting it now

Killzone 2 was awesome though. It's just amazing looking. Videos do not do it justice. The enimes are sneaky fuckers. In the last part you have to protect your squad mate while he opens a door. I was trying to take them out, but i couldn't get more than a few shots off before another of them would pop out from cover and start shooting. They were like in sync or something. One of the bastards had snuck round and nearly got to were i was. I bet there there fucking rock and the harder difficulty levels. Can't wait for to get the full game

As for the Batman game, it best be quite stealthy. Using the shadows and shit to suprise your enemies
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 12th, 2009, 9:59pm

The action seemed slower in my mind so the game might not be so slow after all.
And I saw Batman sneak around in the trailer so I guess stealth play should be possible.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Feb 14th, 2009, 05:04am

God Of War 3 new trailer and info

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/954/954097p1.html

To say i'm excited about This would be the understatement of the century.

I think this could set a new standard for violence and brutality in video games

Can't wait to see the new animation for the "Fuck you" button.

Kratos will have is revenge, and heaven help anyone or anything that gets in his way cool
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 14th, 2009, 08:34am

X-Men: Wolverine Origins
This actually looks good. The author seems to really like the game.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 14th, 2009, 11:07am

Get the FEAR 2 Demo- I am impressed. Also Chaos, you can change the controls to where you can move and shoot on RE5. I shit you not sir.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Feb 26th, 2009, 5:28pm

Meh, the controls are still fucking awful

Got Killzone 2 today. It's immense. The enemy AI is really great. They seem to actually value there lives. They don't fuck around either. They will flush you out of cover with grenades and seemingly use team work to flank you. They don't fuck around. Cunts!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 11th, 2009, 12:39am

Street Fighter IV is awesome. Also, I take back what I said about RE5, I thought this was the case but I guess they did not use it. My issue of EGM said they would have an arcade type control scheme, but I guess not.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 11th, 2009, 02:47am

Again, the Wolverine game:
http://www.newsarama.com/php/video/player.php?aid=26542

I do not know why, but I really have been enamoured with this game by only seeing a trailer and reading a positive reporter.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 12th, 2009, 3:34pm

The Batman came is gonna be amazing. I can't wait.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Mar 14th, 2009, 11:19am

The Wolverine game look like a GOW clone. They've even took the battering ram thing from GOW 3. Still looks interesting though

The new Batman trailer was great. Looks exactly like i wanted it too. Metal Gear Batman lol
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on Mar 15th, 2009, 08:48am

Based in all the talk on here I checked out both trailers for Wolverine and Batman. Both games look leaps above previous games for both heroes. I'm excited but cautious based on previous experience. Looking forward to playing 'em.

Is that Mark Hamill doing Joker? He sounds different for most of it but spot on in some parts. And that's either Kevin Conroy as Batman or the best impersonator ever. Gotta wonder why they use the guy for Gotham Knight and the game and somebody else for other stuff. Clearly they realize fans want him as Batman.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 15th, 2009, 09:14am

Didn't Conroy voice Batman: Gotham Knight as well? At least, if you meant the animated movies released last year.
And yeah, those are Conroy and Skywalk-- I mean, Hamill.

I agree that the games look great -- it sucks that I cannot view the new trailer for Batman: Arkham Asylum since it will not show outside the US.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on Mar 15th, 2009, 10:29am

Yeah, I meant the animated movie. They used others for the cartoons (The Batman and the new one) and the Justice League New Frontier movie as well as the Justice League video game. Has anyone tried MK vs. DC? BTW, who voices him there if at all? How's that game?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Mar 23rd, 2009, 11:06am

Midnighter, you can view the new Batman trailer here http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_10299_en.html

I got Ninja Gaiden Sigma for 12 over the weekend. The combat is really good, but the camera is fucking awful. They best fix it for Sigma 2, and i think they will now that crater faced cunt Itagaki is gone
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 31st, 2009, 2:00pm

Street Fighter IV is fucking amazing. Ive never felt compelled to train harder at a game.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 1st, 2009, 12:45pm

Not into fighting games at all anymore

I used to be awesome at 2 back in the day though

Gameplay footage of the new Batman game

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_10455_en.html

He moves like he's just shit his pants, but it looks very good overall
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Apr 3rd, 2009, 3:49pm

The new Batman game is gonna be the tits. But I'll hold off on buying it because I see it going on the cheap shelf in a year.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 3rd, 2009, 8:53pm

I agree, Clerk. It looks awesome, so far.
And I will wait until the PS3 has priced down before getting any of the new games.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 4th, 2009, 05:48am

Good heavens, I do not know if I can wait that long for the game:
http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_10457_en.html (high quality)
http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_10455_lq_en.html (low quality)

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 4th, 2009, 1:33pm

Dude, that's the same vid i posted lol

on Apr 3rd, 2009, 3:49pm, Clerk wrote:
The new Batman game is gonna be the tits. But I'll hold off on buying it because I see it going on the cheap shelf in a year.


A year? I woudn't be suprised if i can get it at least 10 cheaper within a month or two. I got Prince Of Persia brand new for 20 in a sale one week after it came out

Speaking of sales, i just got 5 new games. Picked up Stranglehold and Dark Sector for 7.99 each and Dead Space for 18.99 in Blockbuster, then later i was looking on Shopto.net and they had an Easter sale. I got Resistance PSP for 12.95 and Gears Of 50 for 19.95. Dead Space was only 16.95 on there too. Oh well. Still got it for cheap. I ordered these at about 17.20 yesterday and they came today as they said they would. Fucking awesome service that

So i'm set for games for a good while. This credit cruch is great for cheap games, DVD's and Blue-rays cool


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 4th, 2009, 2:16pm

Seriously? I got directed to a trailer.
Or maybe I clicked on the wrong button -- there were so many to push on that site it is highly likely.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 7th, 2009, 7:58pm

http://www.newsarama.com/games/090407-WolverineExtendedHands.html
X-Men Origins: Wolverine game. Looks awesome.



Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 10th, 2009, 10:21am

I'm becoming very suspicious of this game. It's out in less than a month and yet they've shown barley any gameplay, which generally isn't a good sign. Shit, GOW 3 has shown more footage and that ain't even out till next year


Dead Space is awesome. I just had a zero gravity boss fight. Immense

50 cent is suprisngly great and fun as hell. It's hilarious. It's gotta be one of the most insane games ever made. You know most people dream of being an astronaut, sports star and shit. "Fiddy's" fantasy is apparently to go on a killing rampage in the middle east smiley
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 18th, 2009, 11:37am

UFC demo comes is slated to come out Thursday

I got it pre-ordered, so this will see whether i get it or not
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 23rd, 2009, 5:18pm

The UFC demo was is awesome! Been playing like mad. I KO'd Shogun in 13 seconds earlier grin. It was immense. Chuck is wicked powerfull. His head kicks are even more devastating the his power punches. I've won over half my fights with a brutal head kick. I like to GNP too. Hammerfists FTW. Still getting used to the ground game, setting up combos and blocking. Can't wait to play the full game
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on Apr 27th, 2009, 7:01pm

Is it really that good?

I played UFC games in the past and wasn't too happy. I always thought the mechanics would be too hard to actually make work on a video game. I love the WWE Smackdown vs. Raw games as well as the EA Sports Fight Nigh series but I always found MMA games to be an unfeasable task.

I was kinda hoping it'd be good. What's the demo you're playing for and (if for 360) how can I get my hands on a copy?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Apr 27th, 2009, 10:51pm

on Apr 4th, 2009, 1:33pm, Chaos wrote:
A year? I woudn't be suprised if i can get it at least 10 cheaper within a month or two. I got Prince Of Persia brand new for 20 in a sale one week after it came out


You sure you don't want to pre-order just for this?

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It's for all three versions. The promo pictures for Europe look less good as the Arkham notebook is plastic (not leather) and the box is boring and not bat-shaped and it's a standard green 360 case and not a digipack; but I'm hoping the actual one will look like the US version pictured. For comparison purposes this is what the European version currently looks like:

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Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 28th, 2009, 12:41pm

on Apr 27th, 2009, 7:01pm, midLfinger wrote:
Is it really that good?

I played UFC games in the past and wasn't too happy. I always thought the mechanics would be too hard to actually make work on a video game. I love the WWE Smackdown vs. Raw games as well as the EA Sports Fight Nigh series but I always found MMA games to be an unfeasable task.

I was kinda hoping it'd be good. What's the demo you're playing for and (if for 360) how can I get my hands on a copy?


Yeah, it's great. Of course there's some things that could be better, but it's brilliant for there first effort. I've learned how to use shogun's clinch now. It's devastating. If you can't get out of it, you're fucked

I'm playing on PS3. I'm sure they have it on Xbox store or whatever the fuck it's called

Batman CE is 55, so i think not

got another game bargain today Afro Samurai for 19.95. It's a bit of a button masher and the camera can be annoying, but it looks lovely and is a ton of fun. Well satisfied with it cool

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 28th, 2009, 2:56pm

I'm done with collectable shit that I have no use for except that it wastes money I do not have to spend otherwise and takes up space. Cool set, but still. What does it cost?

The game will most definitely rock.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Apr 29th, 2009, 3:51pm

Jesus Christ. I played the new Batman game...... my God the combat is smooth and amazing. My jaw was on the floor, I could never get tired of beating people down. It felt like I was in The Dark Knight.

Also Im slowly playing through Metal Gear Solid 4: way too many cut scenes.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on Apr 29th, 2009, 10:33pm

on Apr 28th, 2009, 2:56pm, TheMidnighter wrote:
I'm done with collectable shit that I have no use for except that it wastes money I do not have to spend otherwise and takes up space. Cool set, but still. What does it cost?

The game will most definitely rock.


Amazon has it listed for $40 more than the stand alone game ($99.99). I might get it because I just played the demo and you can take what Clerk just said above as my own testimony as well. The combat kicks ass. I had fears about this game but it is a definite MUST BUY.

That's only based on combat. Hopefully, the stealth and detective aspects live up to it but of what I've seen (combat, graphics, presentation and Batman's suit) the game pwns!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 30th, 2009, 6:31pm

I have watched the Arkham Asylum technical demo about ten times now and still it does not bore me. Clerk, midL, that news made my day.

Well, actually the day has passed a long time already since I am working after hours to get an experiment running.
You guys actually made my night.
My midnight, even!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on May 2nd, 2009, 2:36pm

Batman delayed till summer

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/978/978901p1.html


Oh, well, if it makes it better than it's all good

Downloaded the Wolverine demo yesterday. It's a dcent hack and slash.......obvioulsy not the second coming of jesus like the developers were making it out to be. I'll probably pick it up when it's 15-20

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on May 12th, 2009, 2:06pm

Im slowly playing through my friend's copy of Metal Gear Solid 4. It has fan service, but the cut scenes are WAY too long about shit I do not care about (Otacton and whatsherface hooking up, Sunny eggs, etc.)
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on May 15th, 2009, 1:57pm

Massively long cut scenes are a big part of what Metal Gear is all about. Most of them are great and Raiden vs Vamp is just fucking pure awesomeness. I wish they could've somehow fit a theater on there, or at least put them up for download or something.


Got Guitar hero 3, well i actually got it a few weeks ago but my guitar was faulty and it was gonna cost like 12 in postage to send it back, so i phoned Activision and after emailing them my proof of postage they sent me a world tour guitar for free. They have awesome customer support

Just starting to get the hang of it. It's great fun smiley
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on May 21st, 2009, 3:30pm

My copy of UFC came today cool

Been playing the shit out of it. Been brutalising people with Lesnar. His hammerfirsts are awesome and he has one puch KO power. I still can't get the ground game down though. The transitions seemingly only work when the fuck they want to

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:42am

Got inFamous last friday. It's awesome. Been playing it like mad. Just got 2 side missions to finish on my first playthrough on evil and then i'm going to start a new game as good


Watched the Sony E3 conference yesterday. So many great games. Uncharted 2 looks incredible and Assassins Creed 2 looked pretty great too

I thought God Of War would set a new standard in brutality and violence, but shit. Look at this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNmuRSvcnFM

His fucking brain comes flying out. On the stage demo he gutted a creature and you could see the entrails This is gonna be banned in some countries


And as much as i love God Of War, this stole the show

The Last Guardian

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-the-last/50352


Just beautiful. Best trailer ever. Hope they announce a release date soon. I want to play this game more than anything
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by emma_c22000 on Jun 3rd, 2009, 6:58pm

That trailer for "The Last Guardian" reminds me an awful lot of "Panzer Dragoon Saga". I loved that game.

Do you know if TLG is going to be an RPG or not, Chaos?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 4th, 2009, 06:27am

The Last Guardian looks very interesting and seems very different from the majority of the games I know. It still needs to prove itself with the actual gameplay but this really looks promising.

I saw the 40 minutes of Final Fantasy XIII gameplay they showed at a certain convention. I have to see that this did not blow me away as news of previous Final Fantasy instalments has done in the past. I cannot specifically put my finger on it but I guess this lack of enthusiasm results from the stereotypical funny black guy -- it just looks overdone. I disliked the portrayal of Barrett in FFVII: Advent Children due to this role.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jun 4th, 2009, 12:08pm

on Jun 3rd, 2009, 6:58pm, emma_c22000 wrote:
That trailer for "The Last Guardian" reminds me an awful lot of "Panzer Dragoon Saga". I loved that game.

Do you know if TLG is going to be an RPG or not, Chaos?


No, it's not an RPG

It's team ico so it's 99.9% guaranteed to be an epic masterpiece

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Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jun 4th, 2009, 4:55pm

on Jun 3rd, 2009, 6:58pm, emma_c22000 wrote:
That trailer for "The Last Guardian" reminds me an awful lot of "Panzer Dragoon Saga". I loved that game.

Do you know if TLG is going to be an RPG or not, Chaos?


Emma! cool
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by JTurner954 on Jun 4th, 2009, 6:47pm

I don't own a Nintendo Wii but as a Nintendo fan I'm happy to hear news about new Mario, new Zelda, and new Metroid games.

And in case you haven't heard, Conan O'Brien is the new host of The Tonight Show. Take a look at his set: http://gizmodo.com/5278719/conans-new-backdrop-sure-looks-familiar

Coincidence?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by emma_c22000 on Jun 6th, 2009, 2:19pm

on Jun 4th, 2009, 4:55pm, Clerk wrote:
Emma! cool

Hello there, lover! smiley
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 7th, 2009, 03:17am

on Jun 4th, 2009, 6:47pm, JTurner954 wrote:
Coincidence?

No way is that coincidence. Cool that people actually recognised it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jun 11th, 2009, 11:54am

on Jun 6th, 2009, 2:19pm, emma_c22000 wrote:
Hello there, lover! smiley


It's been 5 years we've been dancing around this. When will it be official? cool
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jul 27th, 2009, 2:41pm

Anyone in the UK,if you have a Morrison's near you, get down there. They have a sale on fro DVD's, games and CD's. I got Mirrors Edge and Soul Calibur 4 for 6 each and Frank Skinner live 3 disk box set for 4. Fucking bargain. Also got Guitar Hero World Tour for 27.75 in Asda, which is really good. There was only one place online that had it cheaper, but they don't take my debit card. Cunts!

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jul 29th, 2009, 1:09pm

Marvel Vs Capcom 2 out for Xbox Live baby. cool
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jul 29th, 2009, 9:50pm

Article about the new Batman: Arkham Asylum game.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jul 31st, 2009, 11:29am

I'll probably be getting this. Need to read some more detalied previews on how well the stealth works though, as that's the key thing for me
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by emma_c22000 on Aug 5th, 2009, 05:53am

on Jun 11th, 2009, 11:54am, Clerk wrote:
It's been 5 years we've been dancing around this. When will it be official? cool

You're right Clerk, we should get together. Although the large expanse of water separating us means we'd only be able to see each other at weekends. tongue
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Aug 5th, 2009, 1:58pm

Batman demo comes out friday. Looking forward to it

Was gonna wait till i played the demo to see whether i was gonna get it, but i pre-ordered it yesterday for the bargain price of 22.44 from The Hut. I thought it was obviously a mistake and they'd just cancel it, but checked my account earlier and it's still showing up the same price. Fingers crossed it stays that way
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Aug 6th, 2009, 10:02am

Batman demo is out early. Just been plaing it. It'awesome. I spent about 20 mins taking out some guards. Just fucking with them. I'd chuck a batarang and then swing off and just watch them start to panic. I had them shitting bricks grin
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Aug 19th, 2009, 2:51pm

PS3 for $299 and 299 (grr, weak exchange).
Digital Marvel comics for PSP.
Spider-Woman motion comic.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by JTurner954 on Aug 19th, 2009, 7:47pm

cheesy

I paid $150 for Sony's earlier consoles so I will gladly pay double to show my support. Remember that the PS3 version of Batman: Arkham Asylum is the only version that has a playable version of The Joker.

I hated the look of the slim at first, but it grew on me since I saw the bulky original.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Aug 29th, 2009, 10:48am

Got Batman

It's absolutely awesome, especially the Scarecrow parts. Downloaded the Joker maps too. There great. The way he walks is hilarious. Got a 32 hit combo with him, which is my biggest so far
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Sep 15th, 2009, 07:29am

PS3 Slim made me buy a seventh generation game console. I bought Batman: Arkham Asylum with it. It rocks. I had to get used to the controls but now I get it.

I thought the Scarecrow missions were quite cool but I would have liked a little more variety in it.
Killer Croc gave me the most anxiety. Man, that level was stressing. "Ah! Where's he coming from!?"

I really liked the story, the gadgets, the different takedowns and combat moves (although I really need to practice hand-to-hand combat more).
The Silent Predator challenges easily stand at the top of the extra content for me. I love taking thugs down without being noticed. I really like the objectives you can accomplish (e.g., take down three thugs at the same time with debris from three different walls you blow up with explosive gel).

And yeah, the voice acting is great.


I can hardly wait to start MGS4. I am playing MGS (the original PSX) with my girlfriend. I feel she will need to know the story from the MGS titles to follow the story from MGS4.
(She enjoys games when I play them.)
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Sep 16th, 2009, 11:17am

I though the croc level was pretty boring after the first couple of times he pops up. He just became annoying after that

You'll definitley wanna practise combat on the challenge maps. I'm pretty decent at fighting now. Just takes a while to get used to it. It's more about timing then anything. There's a new map coming out tomorrow on PSN, and there's rumours of another exclusive PS3 map coming out next week too. If it's true, probably be another Joker map

I finished the main game a while ago. I'm finishing of the Riddler stuff now. 206 of 240 so far. I wanna hear what that smug bastard says when you finihs them all

The only thing i didn't like was you don't get to fight the Scarecrow. I really wanted to beat him to a pulp

Overall it's fucking superb. Second fave game i've played this year so far after INfamous


Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 is out next week too. Wanna get that, but not at the price it is currently. Fucking Activision putting there game prices up. No chance i'm paying 37.99 for it. ....or any game for that matter
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Sep 16th, 2009, 3:58pm

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I though the croc level was pretty boring after the first couple of times he pops up. He just became annoying after that
I just finished it on Normal difficulty. Not once did he get me. It really helps to have played the game several hours before on Easy. (I always work my way up. A friend of mine never plays a game on Easy. "Out of principle.")

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You'll definitley wanna practise combat on the challenge maps. I'm pretty decent at fighting now. Just takes a while to get used to it. It's more about timing then anything.
I noticed it also helps to see where the enemies are and to switch target frequently. Especially when you have multiple enemies, it helps me to keep them all taking punches.

I really like getting the hang of it -- I almost used all nine combat moves in a single combo which gives you a trophy.
I try to get all trophies for the game. It is a cool extra addition I do not know from the PS2.

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There's a new map coming out tomorrow on PSN, and there's rumours of another exclusive PS3 map coming out next week too. If it's true, probably be another Joker map
Do you mean the "DLC maps" I read about that came with some exclusive pre-order? I will check PSN tomorrow.

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I finished the main game a while ago. I'm finishing of the Riddler stuff now. 206 of 240 so far. I wanna hear what that smug bastard says when you finihs them all
Ah, I did finish the Riddler stuff. Some I found terribly annoying (some riddles, getting all teeth inside Arkham Mansion) but all in all, it passes the time. I had the luck to find the Riddler maps quite soon.
If you want any help without me actually spoiling the riddles for you: let me know.

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The only thing i didn't like was you don't get to fight the Scarecrow. I really wanted to beat him to a pulp
True. But it seems we might get our chance with the next instalment.

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Overall it's fucking superb. Second fave game i've played this year so far after INfamous
Only game I have played on the PS3 but it rocks. I heard great stuff about inFAMOUS as well.


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Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 is out next week too. Wanna get that, but not at the price it is currently. Fucking Activision putting there game prices up. No chance i'm paying 37.99 for it. ....or any game for that matter
I usually wait for prices to drop. Right now, I picked up MGS4 cheap and can probably get some other great games cheap as well, since I have a lot of games to catch up on (e.g., inFAMOUS, GTA IV).
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Sep 22nd, 2009, 12:20pm

The new combat map is perfect for getting huge combos. I got a 78 hit combo before one of those little cunts jumped on my back. It's hard as hell. Once there's like 30 dudes, you're pretty much fucked

Downloaded the Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 demo from the jap store. Camera is still horrible. How they could think that it's fine is mind blwing. Definitley not getting it now

Started playing inFAMOUS again. I decided i was gonna be as evil as possible. I had all the main powers maxed out befroe i got to the thrid island.

There's loads of quality games on Platnium now. You can get Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, Killzone and GTA 4 is coming out on it soon too. From !5-18 cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Oct 7th, 2009, 09:58am

The new Batman game is awesome, first game I've bought new since Grand Theft Auto IV. Camera aside, everything about it is awesome, it's good to be a Batman fan these days.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Oct 11th, 2009, 08:51am

I got 6 games on Thursday for 40

Pikced up the first Prince Of Persia, Ratchet & Clank 1 & 3 (shame they didn't have 2) and Shadow Of The Colossus in Game's 4 for 20 on PS2 games

Then i went in Blockbuster and got the first Marvel UA and Assasins Creed for 20

Well chuffed. Uncharted 2 comes out Friday too. So enough to keep me busy for a good while
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Oct 14th, 2009, 1:54pm

My copy of Uncharted 2 came today smiley

I'ts tottaly awesome. Best console graphics ever. I'm out a part know that is just jaw dropping in it's detail

If you have a PS3, you must get this game
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 14th, 2009, 3:30pm

I played the demo of the first Uncharted. The premise of the game really interested me but the gameplay was just... weird.

I do not know why I felt that way. I just did. The controls bothered me, the targeting system. I guess I also disliked the lack of tutorial so that might have to do with the demo, not the actual game.

When I see other people play it, it looks very interesting. When I play it myself, I feel as if I cannot control the character as well as I should to perform well in the game. That decreases the enjoyment. Does that make sense?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Oct 15th, 2009, 10:31am

Yeah, the demo is the 4th chapter i think, and it throws you straight into a very combat heavy part. I died many, many times when i first played the demo. Not only are the enimis pretty smart (trying to flank you and flush out) they also take way too many bullets to kill. It's my only real gripe about the first. There wearing t-shirts, yet can take pretty much a whole fucking clip befroe they die. But after a few hours i got it down. I became a headshot master. I got all the trophys for headshots. The first is an awesome game though.

Ucharted 2 is just godly. I just had a shoot where you have to jump from moving cars. Immense.


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 15th, 2009, 7:23pm

If the demo puts you in the thick of things, I might pick Uncharted up second-hand. The enemies were pretty hard to kill, indeed.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Oct 20th, 2009, 11:28am

You can get it brand new over here for !5, so the most i'd pay for it used is 10 (or whatever that is in euros). Buy it and then get Uncharted 2 cheesy

Finished Uncharted 2. Took about 12 and a half hours. Just incredible game. It's funny as hell, the story is great and the graphics and set pieces are jaw droping. Game of the year, and best action adventure game ever! I've already started again. i just can't stop playing it. Gonna find all the treasures this time smiley
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 23rd, 2009, 8:41pm

A couple of weeks ago, I registered on a website for games. It also features comments that members make. Apparently, the people there liked my comments so much they voted me Member of the Month. I could choose a game from a subset they had. I chose LittleBigPlanet.

This game delivers something I have never imagined. I can hardly put into adequate words how I experience playing this game. You can play some cool platform levels offline on your own. However, the game really shines when players connect.

For example, you can play the game's levels with someone else and perform tasks only possible for two (or four) players. You can help each other and get to the prizes via team effort. Furthermore, players can create their own levels (e.g., race, hovercraft, paintball) that others can play. People make the most ingenious stuff.
I frequently team up with a guy I know via these boards. Good fun, good fun.

This game grabbed me within the first 30 minutes. Young kids can play it as well -- I have teamed up with 12 year olds cheesy -- but the game itself does not grow old either.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Oct 24th, 2009, 11:18pm

on Oct 20th, 2009, 11:28am, Chaos wrote:
You can get it brand new over here for !5, so the most i'd pay for it used is 10 (or whatever that is in euros). Buy it and then get Uncharted 2 cheesy

Finished Uncharted 2. Took about 12 and a half hours. Just incredible game. It's funny as hell, the story is great and the graphics and set pieces are jaw droping. Game of the year, and best action adventure game ever! I've already started again. i just can't stop playing it. Gonna find all the treasures this time smiley


I didn't like the first Uncharted myself, I couldn't understand what all the fuss was about - I just found it incredibly dull. I've just started replaying the original (and best) Tomb Raider! It wouldn't work under XP or Vista even with the various fan made installers that seem to work on some machines and not others. Well I installed Windows 7 on my laptop the other day and Tomb Raider installed first time using the latest and simplest installer! It's not 100% perfect, but it's so much better than the alternative... No more horrible PSX port for me!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Nov 9th, 2009, 3:13pm

Managed to get a God Of War 3 demo code at weekend. It's fucking badass. The parts where you rip the creatures intestines, pull the cyclops eye out and ripping helios's head off really are graphic as fuck. Can't wait till March

Also got the new Ratchet And Clank. Just awesome. I love these games. Loads of cool new wepaons, and best of all.....Mr Zurkon can now be upgraded too. The next one should be "Ratchet and Mr Zurkon" cause he rules so much. The shit he says is even funnier in this one

"Mr Zurkon does NOT come in peace"

"Mr. Zurkon does not need nanotech to survive, Mr Zurkon runs on fear"

"Killing is so very fun, doo daa, doo daa. Zurkon killing all day long, oh the doo daa dey."

"Yoo-hoo, Mr. Zurkon is looking to kill you"
grin

And for anyone in the UK, Sainsbury's are gonna be selling Modern Warfare for 26 tomorrow. I phoned them up to see if it was true, and thay said they've had 400 calls about it. Seems you're gonna have to get there at 7.00am if you want one and i bet it'll be one per customer too. See what Asda and Morrisons do. Ideally i'd like to get a few and sell them on for a nice profit
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 15th, 2009, 05:37am

God of War 2 rocked. I bought it on impulse -- blood 'n gore and mythology seemed like a fun combination -- and me and my girlfriend loved it. I look forward to God of War 3 -- the game should look awesome. Chaos, your comments reassure me!

I hear a lot of news about Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. Apparently, the game was highly anticipated. I never heard of it but I do not care for first-person shooters, anyway. Did you get a cheap copy for yourself, in the end? I did not know Sainsbury's carried video games...

I completed Grand Theft Auto IV 100% yesterday. Finally! Now I just need the online trophies.

Does anyone have the game LittleBigPlanet? I would love to hook up with more BatSquad members.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Nov 15th, 2009, 09:07am

Did you get God Of War 2 recently? Cause the GOW collection is coming out soon for PS3. First two games in higher res and trophies. Being a huge God Of War fan i would've normally pre-ordered it straight away, but there's a possibilty that it will be included in the euro GOW 3 collecters edition. So i'll wait till they announce the CE for europe

Yeah, i got a copy for 26. it's just a bunch of scripted events. Enemies pop out exactly the same place, same time....every time. Only plaed about half an hour. Too busy playing Ratchet & Clank


After playing Saints Row 2 god knows how many times, i just couldn't get back into GTA 4. It felt so stiff and boring in comparison


I've had LittleBigPlanet since day it came out. Not played it for a while though
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 15th, 2009, 1:17pm

I think I bought God of War 2 four months ago. Second-hand for about 10,- at that. I heard about the God of War remakes for the PS3 -- I did not know they would include trophies, though... I have to say what I will do. I liked playing the game but I doubt I would buy it for full price. I would rather wait half a year when it costs less.

I have never heard of Saints Row 2. I think I played a Ratchet & Clank game on the PS2 some years ago - as well as Jak & Dexter - but I have my fill of them. At least for a little while.

My PSN-ID is tostigroover. Look me up if you want. (That goes for anyone reading this.)
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Nov 21st, 2009, 4:48pm

When i am actually online with my PS3, it's not till late

All chart games were 25 in Asda this week. I got Borderlands. It's really great. I like that it's got a bit of RPG in it by leveling up your character and adding skill traits. I'm level 22 at the moment. The guns are awesome. I have a sniper rifle that can set people on fire. Well pleased with it

My copy of Assassins Creed II came today. Gonna start on that tmw

I'm done for games for the year now, except if i see any good bargains
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Dec 3rd, 2009, 10:39am

Assassins Creed 2 is awesome. 100% improvement on the 1st. Enzio is a much better character than that miserable Altair cunt and there's so much shit to do. I've actually nearly got all the trophies for it, but i just can't be arsed to get all the feathers.

Definitley one of my fave games of the year
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Dec 12th, 2009, 5:13pm

Got Dragons Age Origins. Game had the normal edition for 15.99 and the SE for 19.99. So i got the SE

Amazing game. I played it today for about 6 hours. It is now my life grin


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Dec 27th, 2009, 8:50pm

I'm going through Ghostbusters now, the gameplay gets a bit old (God I get tired of blasting little marshmellow men) but the writing is amazing. I kept pissing my pants laughing at every one liner. It's proof there needs to be a Ghostbusters 3.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jan 24th, 2010, 1:20pm

I finished MGS4. I found it a tad confusing but that might have to do with me leaving for China in-between. Let's see what another play-through can teach me.

The gameplay rocked. I loved how easy the controls felt. And the split-screen scenes rocked.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jan 31st, 2010, 11:22am

Metal Gear is confusing, and bat shit insane. That's what makes it awesome though

The microwave bit is nuts. You have to bash the X button like crazy till it hurts. You feel Snake's pain. Genius
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:19am

I had the impression that, in the microwave. the game decreased your life based on the position you were. They moved you at a constant speed, so that Old Snake would be almost fully depleted upon reaching it.

I can bash that button pretty quickly and I got to the end just alive. I cannot imagine the majority of the people can bash it as quickly as I can. Still they did not die there.

I have to give it another play-through. I did get Oblivion the other day so I have to check that out first.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Feb 9th, 2010, 2:08pm

I sunk like 110 hours into Oblivion. Did you get the game of the year edition?

tip, join all the guilds and commit a murder so you can join the Dark Brotherhood.


I've been playing Mass Effect 2. It's immense. On Sunday i played it for about 8 straight. Finished my first playthrough yesterday. 38 hours. I bet i can get another 10-15 hours out of it I'f i explore more in my next playthrough.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 9th, 2010, 3:07pm

I did get the Game of the Year edition. I realised as I played it that I started off with the Shivering Isle add-on. This means I have not even played the original game, yet. I guess I can only join guilds there because I have not come across anything of that sort on the Shivering Isles... Do I commit the murder against someone from my own guild? (Yes or no, or at least no spoilers, please.)

The game has engrossed me completely. My girlfriend loves it too (just like Batman: Arkham Asylum, Grand Theft Auto IV, Metal Gear Solid 1-4 and LittleBigPlanet). I started out with the simple quest to investigate a light. This simple investigation has turned into a multitude of different quests, side-quests, assignments and whatnot... Immense...
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Feb 13th, 2010, 4:16pm

I didn't start on Shivering Isle till i was about 30 hors or so into the main game

Yeah, there's no guilds there. It's a crazy place. I did get an awesome swrod there though

Just kill a villager/town person (make sure you have some gold though to pay off the bounty), and you'll get visited by a Dark Brotherhood dude when you go to sleep. There by far the best guild imo. You get loads of cool weapons from them for completing quests

What race and skills did you pick? Cause high sneak is something you really need to be able to pull of some of the shit the Brotherhood want you to do


And here's the new GOW 3 trailer http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/02/god-of-war-iii-vengeance-trailer/

March 19th can't get here fast enough. The scale/draw distance is insane


And i just see Flower is only 2.39 on PSN till 18th feb. I'll get it for that price. Looks very chill and mellow
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by JTurner954 on Feb 13th, 2010, 4:37pm

I got a PS3 from Amazon on Black Friday and I'm having a blast with it. I really wish the PSN store would have a God of War 3 demo soon.

Speaking of PSN, they have the game FLOW available for free until midnight EST. No code needed or anything.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 13th, 2010, 4:48pm

I sneak a lot -- I guess I got that from playing Tenchu. I already got to the Master level in Sneaking whilst the other skills are at the bottom three classes.

OK, I get the guild thing. I will do it when exiting the Shivering Isles.

I choose a Khajiit and I created my own skill set (cannot remember which one and I'm pulling an all-weekender with Final Fantasy IX now).

God of War III looks awesome.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 16th, 2010, 10:33am

Race: Khajiit
Birthsign: The Warrior
Class: Derkules (my custom class)

Major skills: Blade, Block, Hand-To-Hand, Restoration, Light Armor, Marksman, Sneak.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Feb 21st, 2010, 12:08pm

I got 8 PS2 games for 20 in Game on Friday cheesy

Black
Burnout 3
Canis Canen Edit (Bully)
Gun
Jak And Dexter: The Precursor Legacy
Lego Star Wars 2: The Original Trilogy
Spartan: Total Warrior
The Warriors

Only played Burnout so far, and probably won't be playing anything but Burnout for a good while....cause it's totally fucking awesome. Takedowns are immense. I got 5 in a row last night. cool

So this lot will keep me going for a while

Also got Flower. It's great. Very mellow and relaxing
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by JTurner954 on Feb 21st, 2010, 8:45pm

Have you guys checked out the demo for Heavy Rain? As a fan of mysteries, I was sucked right in.

The gameplay takes those quick button scenes from God of War to a whole new level where you press more than one at a time to either control what is said (interrogating officers at a crime scene) or your actions (using an inhaler, paying a prostitute).

The graphics are also amazing.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 23rd, 2010, 7:00pm

I bought this game called Tomba for PLaystation 1. Did anyone ever play that? I don't think I've ever played a game like it, it's like an RPG platformer type.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 25th, 2010, 05:48am

I got Flower, as well. It cost 2.99 here -- I consider that a steal. I love it. The game flows nicely and it gives such a nice free feel. The third level (with the windmills) is definitely my favourite.

I too played the Heavy Rain demo. I really disliked the R2-trigger function to walk. The rest I liked. The visuals look stunning. the acting rocks and I heard the game - despite its slow start - hooks you and does not let go. I really feel this game could become something special amongst the games I have played.

I started playing Dissidia: Final Fantasy. Beforehand I had some gripes with the concept of the game (all FF titles stood alone, not any more with this game) but I like the start. Plus, Squall vs. Sephiroth in the intro movie had me jumping up and down my seat.

Never heard of Tomba. Do you like it, Clerk? I just looked it up on Wikipedia -- they state it has received positive reviews. I do recognise the cover art.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on Feb 27th, 2010, 6:27pm

Just got Chronicles of Riddick for XBox 360. I never played Escape from Butcher Bay on XBox so I'm playing through that first. Graphics aside, this game has aged excellently. It's awesome.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 9th, 2010, 2:30pm

Final Fantasy XIII arrived. Needless to say, here goes my slim social life.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Mar 10th, 2010, 2:28pm

My copy of Yakuza 3 came today. Comes with a soundtrack CD and a load of DLC too smiley

It's great. I love stomping on a downed dudes face. It's fucking immense and looks brutal as fuck
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 14th, 2010, 04:53am

I played the Yakuza 3 demo and I thought it sucked. I hope you like it but that demo irritated me a lot. Sucky controls, graphics from yesteryear (since it's one year old) and mostly text on the screen instead of spoken dialogue.

No thanks.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Mar 16th, 2010, 2:38pm

If you didn't change the controls from inverted to normal, then that would explain it

The grpahics are really good. There's a lot of detail in shops and stores. The demo is only showing a very, very tiny part. The full game is pretty big. 22 hours or so on my first playthrough and i only had 11% completion.


And it's all in japanese with subtitles anyway, so doesn't make any differnce to the text


I love it. I was playing mini games for about 2 hours last night


My GOW 3 ubber edition should be on it's way soon. It's been packing since yesterday. I wish they'd hurry the fuck up and post it angry I wanna disembowel motherfuckers, dammit!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Mar 20th, 2010, 11:03am

Got my God Of War 3 smiley

I'm about 8 hours in so far

It''s immense. It stomps so much ass it should come with a voucher for a new colon

Love the new weapons, and there all usefull too. Also like the grapple that lets you hurl yourself into fuckers. You can now get to slaughtering enemies even faster

And the scale is just mind blowing. It's mental when you're on a titan and the landscape changes. You can be just standing normally, and then it'll shift and you'll be hanging upside down or something. The titans are also amazing looking




Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 24th, 2010, 01:16am

Chaos, good to hear God of War III rocks as much as it should. I got the demo and it felt just like playing GoW II. The air current stuff was difficult, though.

I just finished Final Fantasy XIII a couple of days ago. Great game with an especially great battle system. I am now trying to max out all characters and weapons. The only thing the game really lacks is a good number of good side-quests. I think the only real side-quest is hunting specific monsters.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Apr 6th, 2010, 11:44am

Tomba is awesomely old school. It's a mixture of a platformer and an RPG, and has a great sense of humor. I'm also going through Final Fantasy VII again. cool

Anyone else as stoked as I am for Batman Arkham 2?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 14th, 2010, 2:35pm

Batman: Arkham Asylum 2. If it plays as good as the first, I will love the heck out of that game. Stoked for the sequel? I'm still stoked about the original.

I got all trophies in Final Fantasy XIII. Lovely game. A great new experience from a game series that encompasses 13 main titles.

Oh, and I got all LittleBigPlanet trophies too.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Apr 15th, 2010, 4:53pm

So I just bought Batman And Robin for Playstation 1.

It's quite ambitious for its time I wont lie, they were trying GTA Batman before GTA3.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 24th, 2010, 05:12am

This week I finished Batman: Arkham Asylum completely. I scored all trophies. Man, was that hellish...

I also scored five cheap games (WET, Assassin's Creed, Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Saint's Row 2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2). I started with Star Wars and Ultimate Alliance 2. I'm not at all far in, at this moment.

And I love the FIFA 2010 demo they put on PSN. Two minutes per half but it is addicting.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 25th, 2010, 12:25pm


I have all them games except Wet

Saints Row 2 is my fave by miles out of them. i love it. it's funny as fuck when you run someone over and they launch into the sky. You'll need to download the patch for Assassin's Creed otherwise it'll constantly freeze.

Latest game i got was GTA: Episodes from liberty city. I got it last thrusday, only started plaing it friday. Started off plaing The lost and damned. Really lking it so far. Bikes are now fucking awesome to ride, so much so that i hope there's not many missions where have to drive a car or something.

I have Fifa 10. i don't like it. I hate sports games have gotten so damn complictaed. It's all hold thses 3 buttona and wiggle the stick to do a trick ot something angry
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on May 23rd, 2010, 12:40pm

Got Red Dead Redemption on Friday. It's fucking increbile. Bater than any GTA IMO. Would say more, but gonna get back to playing it grin
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TurkeyMoose on May 23rd, 2010, 5:24pm

That game looks pretty cool. I think I'm gonna get it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on May 25th, 2010, 11:59am

I work at a game store and we keep selling all our copies of Red Dead.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on May 27th, 2010, 02:31am

Got UFC Undisputed 2010. Significantly better than 2009.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TurkeyMoose on Jun 5th, 2010, 10:05pm

I just finished Red Dead Redemption! It is my new favorite video game! cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 6th, 2010, 12:11pm

Damn Turkey, finished it already. Awesome! The game looks amazing and I have every intention of getting it.

Do you mean the game is now your Favourite of the Month or All-time Favourite Videogame?

I have been playing lots of Final Fantasy VI (yes, number 6, from the year 1994). The PSX port I had kept freezing on my PS2 when I played it years ago. I forgot about the game. On the PS3, the game works perfectly. Lovely, lovely game. Once again, I have become addicted to a Final Fantasy instalment.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TurkeyMoose on Jun 6th, 2010, 1:08pm

on Jun 6th, 2010, 12:11pm, TheMidnighter wrote:
Damn Turkey, finished it already. Awesome! The game looks amazing and I have every intention of getting it.

Do you mean the game is now your Favourite of the Month or All-time Favourite Videogame?


It's my new all-time favorite! This is a momentous occasion, because for years Max Payne has been my favorite. Even when I played really awesome games after that, I never swayed from my conviction that Max Payne was still my favorite. But now it has finally been dethroned by Red Dead Redemption. I highly recommend that everyone play this game! cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 8th, 2010, 04:18am

Awesome! I will definitely get the game, rather sooner than later.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jun 24th, 2010, 1:46pm

Yeah I just got a PS3, and have gone through Heavy Rain, MGS4, and God Of War 3.

My God, that battle with Zeus at the end of GOW was just amazing. cool
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jun 26th, 2010, 3:05pm

Definitley a great boss fight. The graphics for the first part are insane. I know it's cause of the way it's done, but it's still amazing.

How long did you press the button for? grin

Herclues is my fave boss fight though. So brutal

Anyone with a decent PC needs to get on steam. Look at these bargains i just got

Left 4 Dead 2 6.80
The Witcher: Enhanced Edition Director's Cut 4.41
Half-Life 2 Episode 2 4.01
cool cool cool cool


Unbelievable. Left 4 dead is a 24 hour deal. There's about 20 hours left to get it at a crazy price


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jul 15th, 2010, 3:21pm

Got Heavy Rain for 19.95 and Army Of Two: The 40th Day for 9.98 in Blockbusters yesterday

Only played about 40 mins of Army, but it looks like it's gonna be pretty damn good

Heavy Rain is fucking amazing. I was playing it till the early hours last night. It's really tense, my heart was actually pounding in places. And it looks so real sometimes it's scary. Also Madison is hot as hell. Fuck finding the killer, my new mission is to nail her grin
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jul 16th, 2010, 02:59am

I bought Army of Two: The 40th Day a couple of weeks ago. I thought the game rocked but the servers suck. I cannot connect to people overseas. The story is OK once you get it (which I did not until I read it online) but that all does not matter since the gameplay rocks.

I started playing Fallout 3 a couple of weeks ago. I have immersed myself in it. The game has to wait, though -- I'm on holiday.

Good to hear you love Heavy Rain (and Madison). I need to get that game.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jul 19th, 2010, 1:08pm

Yeah, now that i've played a bit more it's really good. Verry happy with it

I finished Heavy Rain. Fucking incredible gaming experience. Some of the choices you have to make as it goes on are like choose to do this horrible thing, or this other horrible thing.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jul 23rd, 2010, 03:18am

Well, I'm still a couple of weeks on holiday. When I get back, I will be available for Army of Two: the 40th Day co-op, if you'd like. That is, the time I am not spending on Fallout 3.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by midLfinger on Jul 26th, 2010, 03:40am

Holy sandwich bag of donut sprinkles! Street Fighter X Tekken, brotherfudgers! This game looks awesome. Can't wait to get it and play it over and over until Tekken X Street Fighter is released which will probably be all kinds of more awesome.

http://tinyurl.com/34l84dt
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Sep 10th, 2010, 01:22am

Haha I kept pressing the button for like 10 minutes, wondering when it was gonna end, until I realized I should just let go.

Heavy Rain was a mixed bag for me. The quicktime events were INTENSE just knowing that your character would die any second, but they shouldve just made it point and click instead of the clunky walk around option. When the game made it "life or death" with the walking around portions, I got quite frustrated.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Dec 8th, 2010, 10:00pm

Anyone here have Xbox Live for some Black Ops?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Dec 14th, 2010, 4:37pm

http://www.gamespot.com/event/codes/dc-universe-ps3-beta/?tag=topslot;thumb;3

It's North America only so if anyone from the US could log in and acquire a PlayStation3 code for me, that'd be great. If you have the code, you could PM it to me.

If it's not available anymore, no biggie. I'm just curious.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Dec 15th, 2010, 2:25pm

The beta codes are region locked from what i've read

I got quite a lot of bargains recently

Smackdown vs Raw 2011 16.14
God Of War: Ghost of Sparta 16.14
Company of Heroes: Anthology 8.94
Need For Spped: Hot Pursuit Limited Edition 20. 50

There all Awesome. This lot will keep me going for the rest of the year cool
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Assassin32 on Dec 31st, 2010, 10:43am

I just barely got Batman: Arkham Asylum for PS3 this Christmas(the Collector's Edition!), and it's living up to all the hype.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jan 20th, 2011, 7:25pm

I've actually been playing quite a lot of games lately.

Assassin's Creed & Assassin's Creed 2
I never got around to play these games when they were released but finally managed to get them cheap. I liked the first quite a bit. All that free running onto buildings and killing people, pretending to be a monk to blend in and escape the guards... All that stuff rocked.

The only thing annoying about the game is that the game sometimes 'helps' you by guessing where you want to jump towards. I cannot say how many times I have thought to myself, in sarcastic manner: yeah thanks, that was exactly where I want to jump to...

That gripe only got worse in AC2. I think that game frustrated me even more than the first one. I actually did not enjoy playing it that much as the first. Not only because the movement still sucked, also because combat did not work as it should and side missions were boring and repetitive.

AC: 7.5 / 10
AC2: 7 / 10


Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition
This game is my new favourite current-gen RPG. I like it better than Final Fantasy XIII and Fallout 3. It has awesome graphics (FF XIII looks better, though) and great playable characters who actually respond to the choices you make throughout the game. I liked the story a lot and the options you have for character growth. The only thing I can think of that I did not like was the fact that your main character does not speak at all.

I loved the expansion and downloadable content for this game as well. It's all included in the ultimate edition -- which can be bought very cheap -- and it really helped to suck a couple of extra weeks out of me.

9.5 / 10


Fallout 3: Game of the Year edition
Fallout 3 rocks. Another great RPG and its setting is the coolest part. Finally not some fantasy world with orcs, dwarves and elves, nor a pseudo scifi world. Fallout 3 takes place in a post-apocalyptic America. Hence the name: nuclear fallout is abundant.

The story is amazing, the different quests you can do, the places to explore. It all helps to build a great experience. The expansions that are included in the GotY edition are lovely too, although they made the game freeze a lot. Especially when the save file grew over 10MB, freezing happened a lot.

It was only a slight downside to this awesome game. I have poured well over 100 hours into this game and loved every single bit of it.

9 / 10


Heavy Rain
My girlfriend bought this. And not for me to play it. No, she actually wanted to play this game herself. Her infamous hand-eye co-ordination is terrible -- which makes it a pain to sit next to the controller instead of actually controlling the game -- but luckily, the game always comes to a conclusion.

The game calls itself an interactive drama, which is a better name for it. A child has been kidnapped by the notorious Origami Killer and you follow four different characters, all linked to this case. You have to chase people, interrogate people, these characters meet each other, your characters can die. It seems like everything is possible in this game. It's also great to see different scenarios play out: posing different questions or acting nice instead of aggressive to people really makes a difference.

Like I said, the game always comes to a conclusion. Your character can die, but that does not mean the other characters cannot rescue the kid any more.

The gameplay is also nicely done. They have done some nice things with the quick time events and other actions you need to perform in the game. Walking around is strange at first but you get used to it.

9- / 10


inFamous
You play Cole, who has received superpowers since he has been in the epicentre of an explosion. You reside in the city where the explosion took place. It has been quarantined and scum has taken to the streets. Time to kick their butts.

The powers you have are the main selling point for this game. The developers have really thought of some nice applications for the electricity-based powers you wield: shields, shock grenades, sliding over cables, thrusters, leeching electric devices (or even people) for health and a couple more.

It is an open world game where you can explore the three islands of the city, finding collectables or performing tasks for the inhabitants and there's also a cool main story taking place. The main story is actually quite elaborate. You will not finish this game in five hours.

The morality choices available in this game also affect your character development: will you become the city's hero or the city's tyrant? Good or bad karma provides different sets of powers, adding replay value.

8.5 / 10


Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Having read a lot of good things about this game, with the sequel being released and loving Star Wars for many years, I bought this game cheap. The game really lives up to its name: your character unleashed the force. The force powers you have available to you made me go "boo yah!" whilst playing this. It's awesome to smash Rancors and AT-STs being just one person. You even get to play as Darth Vader himself. Awesome, awesome.

The story is great too: you are Starkiller, Darth Vader's secret apprentice. You have to fulfil different several top secret missions for Vader. You have lots of cool levels and boss battles. The most fun I had, though, was entering a large battle field and kicking all sorts of butt with my force abilities. The Power of the Dark Side...

8.5 / 10


Red Dead Redemption
My girlfriend got me this gift for my birthday and it's awesome. Rockstar created so much more than just 'GTA in the wild west.' I like this a lot better than GTA and I am not even a big fan of the western theme. I cannot really put my finger on it but I think it has to do with how 'whole' and 'complete' this game feels. It seems as if Rockstar have really put everything in the game you would expect to find in the wild west, and even some things you had not thought about.

The gameplay is ohenomenal. The controls are great and the variety of missions keeps the entire game feel fresh. The story itself is interesting too.

There's also a multiplayer mode where you can battle other players or form a posse (to explore the world or battle other posses). Usually I do not like online play that much but RDR has a very well-done multiplayer aspect. I like it a lot.

Unfortunately, my copy does not work too well any more. No idea why. I want to keep playing this game.

9 / 10


Modnation Racers
My girlfriend got me this game as well for my birthday. I have only been playing a bit so far so I cannot really comment on it. I have found out that the races can be quite hectic with all the boosts and thrusts for your car and your opponents', the power ups, bombs and missiles flying around, drifting, sideswiping and whatnot.

It's evident they have tried to create a sort of 'LittleBigPlanet racer' with the customisation available. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. I love finding Rorschach, Batman, Captain America costumes made by a fellow players to download. You can create your own costumes, cars and tracks. You have quite a lot of options available too. I have only dabbled in this and will probably not get to the bottom of this creation mode. It takes up too much time. Luckily, the racing is quite all right.


Wet
Sucks.

1 / 10


Right now, I'm also waiting for LittleBigPlanet 2. It should be on its way to my mailbox as I type this. Come on, mailman!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 7th, 2011, 6:30pm

LittleBigPlanet 2.

PSN: tostigroover

Let's co-op.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:00am

I need to go through Red Dead, just finished Mario Galaxy 2. Next up is Epic Mickey and DKC Returns.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 3rd, 2011, 4:46pm

I got Mass Effect 2 for PS3. I finished it once on Normal but I am now in my run on Insanity difficulty. Damn it's hard some times but, damn, if it's not rewarding when I finally win a battle.

To prepare myself, I watched YouTube uploads of the first game's story. Watching that made me excited already for ME2. I really like it.

the only problem I have now, is how stupid your teammates are. On Normal it did not matter because enemies died pretty easily. On Insanity, I really need my buddies so when they get out of cover when three rockets are flying towards them, I get annoyed.

But I'm steadily going through the story again and it's going pretty well as of right now. I think the learning curve is behind me.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 5th, 2011, 12:15pm

"Hi i'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite store on the citadel"

Awesome game that, even though it's not really much of an RPG

Last few months i've got

Undead Nightmare: Downloaded as it's only 8 on PSN. It's awesome. If you have Red Dead, this is a must buy

Yakuza 4. 65 hours on my first playthrough, and still only 35% completion lol

Killzone 3. Intense is probably the best word for it. You feel the Helgahst really, really want to kill you lol
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TurkeyMoose on Apr 22nd, 2011, 1:58pm

Anyone else looking forward to L.A. Noire?


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 23rd, 2011, 3:02pm

I finished Mass Effect 2 a couple of times, including The Arrival DLC, and decided to go with a new character. I used a male Paragon Infiltrator for my first two runs (normal and insanity) and I use a female Renegade Adept now (hard difficulty).

I also got Undead Nightmare but then the collector's disc which includes Liars & Cheats DLC and Legends and Killer DLC. I do not really enjoy the sparsity of ammunition in the single player. I have been able to just avoid the zombies, only killing those in towns that need to be cleared of the undead.

L.A. Noire is looking gorgeous but I will wait for a Game of the Year edition or Complete Edition (like Rockstar did with GTA IV) on this one. The game will sell well, I believe, so it will not need my personal financial support in the early weeks.

I would support the Team ICO HD Collection and The Last Guardian but, goddamn it, they have been postponed indefinitely. How long do you need to work on a f'ing game?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on May 10th, 2011, 12:27am

I rented Red Dead to get ready for some sweet sweet LA Noire. My body is ready.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on May 17th, 2011, 4:27pm

PSN is back. We'll get a couple of games. I'm just glad to play some LBP2 again.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on May 22nd, 2011, 2:41pm

Got LA Noire friday

Was gonna wait, but best buy had it for 29.99. Only started playing today as i was worried about all the overheating shit. I'm really liking it. It's very satisfying when you find all the clues and manage to read there faces correctly, which is fucking hard lol
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TurkeyMoose on May 24th, 2011, 04:55am

Finished L.A. Noire already. It's no Red Dead Redemption, but still pretty fun. cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 4th, 2011, 1:53pm

Being on holiday, I just brought my PSP ('say whu, no PS3?') but I downloaded LittleBigPlanet for PSP. The small screen is straining my eyes but the cuteness and fun from its big brother are there. I'll definitely get through the rainy days I'm sure to get.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 21st, 2011, 12:29pm

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The look for Robin in his own challenge maps for Batman: Arkham City. I actually really like it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jul 22nd, 2011, 09:48am

So I have been dying a lot in Demon's Souls. Is anyone familiar with this brutal RPG?

Team ICO HD Collection finally has a release date: 28 September in Europe. I really look forward to this.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jul 26th, 2011, 2:20pm

That's all you do in Demon Souls

You die, and die and die, till you figure out how not to

At least that's what people say. Never played it myself. Way, way too hard for me

I been playing Mass Effect 2 a lot again. I must have finished it about 8 times now.

Legion best be a permanent member in 3. It sucks that you only get to use him for a couple of missions. He's fucking awesome. Once you get him that mantis sniper rifle, he's a fucking beast




Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Sep 18th, 2011, 07:46am

Demon's Souls, though difficult, was not too harsh after all. In fact, I loved how this game actually challenged you to be careful about your defence and attack and how it punished you if you did not. This game does not need a Hard Mode to be challenging.

I think this might be the best game I have played in recent years. The experience felt so satisfying that I decided to honour From Software -- a developer I not only thank for Demon's Souls but also for the Tenchu game series -- by placing a pre-order on their new title and spiritual successor of Demon's Souls: Dark Souls.

Anyone else going to get that game?


I have also tried [Prototype] but I have to say the game looked absolutely rubbish. I heard all these great reviews that likened it to InFamous. Well, so far, [Prototype] doesn't hold a candle to InFamous.

I have also been working my way through the first Uncharted on Hard Mode. It's challenging but fun. I'm not yet convinced of the hype surrounding the series. Then again, I have heard that the sequel really blows the first one out of the water.


Did anyone see the 20 minutes of gameplay for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim? This looks pretty incredible. And the serene music as we are introduced to the world sounds sublime.






Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 11th, 2011, 04:49am

Mass Effect 3 will have four-player co-op. I like the idea and the sound of it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 25th, 2011, 2:53pm

Who has been playing Batman: Arkham City and wants to rub it in my face? I have too many games so I will not get it yet but all reviewers score this game very, very high.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TurkeyMoose on Oct 26th, 2011, 04:21am

Just finished Arkham City! cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Oct 26th, 2011, 09:42am

I think I would have enjoyed Arkham City about 100,000 times more if it had been like this instead:


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 26th, 2011, 1:45pm

I will love this game. Man, those Robin and Nightwing bits look good.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Oct 27th, 2011, 03:43am

on Oct 25th, 2011, 2:53pm, TheMidnighter wrote:
Who has been playing Batman: Arkham City and wants to rub it in my face? I have too many games so I will not get it yet but all reviewers score this game very, very high.


I've been thinking about picking up a PS3 for this and 2K12.

We'll see.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 27th, 2011, 04:13am

Keep us updated, Will. Batman: Arkham City is scoring rave reviews all around the globe. If you dig videogames in the slightest, this will be sure to strike your fancy.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Oct 27th, 2011, 3:51pm

I'm thinking of buying a PS3. Someone want to talk me out of it / into it?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Oct 28th, 2011, 01:06am

For those wanting opinions on whether to buy consoles. This is my view:

If you want a console primarily for gaming: Buy a 360.

If you don't have Blu-Ray player yet: Buy a PS3.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 28th, 2011, 03:50am

My view is that the PS3, at the moment, has the better exclusive titles: Uncharted, MGS4, LittleBigPlanet 1 and 2, Ratchet & Clank, Sly Collection, Demon's Souls, God of War, Heavy Rain, InFamous 1 and 2, Team Ico Collection, The Last Guardian, Splinter Cell Trilogy, Killzone, Resistance and a bunch more that I am not personally interested in. What does Xbox have that's truly impressive? In my opinion, only Gears of War and Halo (and I don't like shooters so no loss for me).

List of exclusives.

Going online is free on PS3 but not on Xbox 360. This matters a lot if you're not a hardcore gamer. If you're hardcore, you might feel like it's worth shelling out 60 bucks a year for the services of Microsoft. If you're not so fanatical, I suggest to stay with Sony regarding that aspect as well. Some say the money is worth it for Xbox Live. My internet connection is great so have had zero problems with Sony's free service.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Oct 28th, 2011, 04:01am

Another point against the 360: Microsoft puts out buggy, unfinished software, but when these same problems are translated to hardware you have a disastrous fail-rate.

Broken hardware is broken hardware. There is no patch for that, and the 360 was an internal design that was too ambitious for its casing.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Oct 30th, 2011, 8:19pm

I got a PS3. Walmart has an Arkham City / Arkham Asylum (GMOY edition) combo pack for $60US, so I have those as well.
Yay me!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 31st, 2011, 01:36am

Awesome, snipe. I'm really curious about the experiences you have with the two Arkham games. Which one will you start with: Asylum or City?

Feel free to add me to your PS3 friendslist.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Oct 31st, 2011, 06:53am

I started with the first one. I'm really rusty with games - I've not played anything but a baseball game for PC since college (I went cold-turkey) - about 13-14 years ago. I'm really struggling with getting my bearings.
I started the game last night and did some exploring. I'm to the part just after stopping Zsasz.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 31st, 2011, 08:30am

Nice. Just take it easy (the Batman never rushes). The game gives you a nice build-up in terms of difficulty. And even then, there is no shame in playing the game -- or any game, for that matter -- on Easy.

I really loved doing those Predator and Combat Challenges in between the actual game. They really helped me hone my skills.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Oct 31st, 2011, 10:34am

Oh yeah, easy mode was my first setting. I'm enjoying walking around looking, etc.
Oh, and getting my ass kicked smiley
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Oct 31st, 2011, 10:47am

I aced Arkham Asylum on Hard, but Arkham City was significantly harder than that on Normal!!!

In City there are always many more enemies at once, and they have many more cheap shots to break your combos. And while counter move was your friend in Asylum, in City I would always find myself attacked by another enemy during the counter animation which was really frustrating. angry
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Oct 31st, 2011, 6:56pm

I think I'm going to beat it at easy, then move to hard and try to do it again.
I'm currently in Batman's cave on Arkham Island.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 2nd, 2011, 10:59am

Grand Theft auto V debut trailer.


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 3rd, 2011, 12:37am

And DC Universe Online is free on PS Network. It will be my first MMO.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Nov 3rd, 2011, 8:33pm

Awesome, I'm downloading it now. I've never done MMO either.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Nov 5th, 2011, 3:32pm

Finished Asylum last night. I still have a few trophies to find. I've also not done all the challenges.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 5th, 2011, 5:23pm

Nice, Good luck with those challenges. I know I hated Shock and Awe (Extreme) but I absolutely loved the Predator challenges.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Nov 6th, 2011, 07:46am

Finished the Riddler stuff last night, and I did have to cheat on the teeth in the Warden's office and the ? in intensive care.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Nov 6th, 2011, 08:27am

Got Uncharted 3 on Wednesday. If you're in the UK, and have a best buy near it's 32.99

Unsurprisingly, it's awesome

The set pieces are crazy and jaw dropping

It's also seems a lot harder than 2. In that later stages you have guys with sniper rifles, rocket launchers, guys lobbing grenades to flush you out of cover and a few heavies. You really gotta move about to survive

Only saint's row the third and arkham city for new games for me this year now. Got a voucher to download arkham for free with my new GFX card. Best not get delayed on PC again angry
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 16th, 2011, 12:59pm

I know why it's so quiet. Skyrim. My brother has it and it's great even just to watch it. Spectacular game and immensely immersive.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 22nd, 2011, 11:28am


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Nov 26th, 2011, 11:48pm

Im trying to get all the riddles in Arkham City. Man, those make Arkham Asylum look like Elmos Numbers.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Nov 27th, 2011, 07:31am

Yeah, I hate the puzzles. I'm trying to do it without "cheating" using the internet. He won't let me get anymore hostages without finding more.
The only other thing I have to do is find the Identity Thief (Hush?). The trail went dry for me after finding the second "victim" (the guy with blood on his hands that talks about Bruce Wayne).
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 28th, 2011, 07:59am

I have got quite far in Dark Souls in these past few days. I felt hesitant to pick it up again, fearing I wouldn't be good enough any more. Luckily I was but, given that it's a Souls game, I still die a lot. Fortunately, I die only when I am being a moron -- I do not suffer any cheap deaths.

Anyone else playing that game or Demon's Souls? Check out some gameplay videos and reviews on YouTube. If you like hardcore games, this will really pose a challenge.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Dec 19th, 2011, 11:52pm

Whoo, happy news! cheesy Batman Inc Costume free download for Arkham City:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=396563

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Such a shame DC threw away such an awesome costume in the Reboot. I just love that iconic yellow lego so much! This is easily the best costume in the game. In fact, out of all mediums, the Batman Inc costume is my second favourite of all time! For the record, my absolute favourite costume is Batman Returns, which also has my all time favourite Batmobile. Damn that film had impeccable art design.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Dec 20th, 2011, 05:10am

I've been playing with the 70s suit. Very Neal Adams. The Y1 is also pretty sweet.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TurkeyMoose on Dec 27th, 2011, 6:15pm

I've been playing through the "New Game Plus" feature in Arkham City. I made sure I went back into the main game and got all of the gadgets and upgrades first, so I got to start New Game Plus with everything. But it is significantly more difficult.

I also just got all of the new suits. I think the 1970s one is my favorite. That is just the classic look for Batman. In fact, I think "Classic" would have been a better name for it instead of "1970s", since that's actually the outfit he wore in the comics from the late '60s through the early '90s, not just in the '70s. I also really like the Batman Inc. suit. That's the one I wanted to play through New Game Plus with since it has the classic yellow oval like the 1970s suit but is darker and fits in better with the gritty environment of the game. The 1970s suit looks a bit out of place at times. But anyway, when I started the new game I discovered that the cutscenes still show Batman wearing the default costume regardless of which suit you choose. It only shows the one you choose in actual gameplay. I found that kind of annoying so I decided to just play the game again with the default attire. rolleyes
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Dec 28th, 2011, 09:19am

I'm teaming up with my brother and a good friend of ours to complete Final Fantasy XII in one sitting. We lost 45 minutes of progress when I stretched my legs and hit the power button on the PlayStation 2 with my toe. Ah well!

We're at the Stilshrine of Miriam in 16 hours and are about level 20 with our characters.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 11th, 2012, 05:58am

I've been playing Skyrim a lot, like the rest of the world. It's my brother's copy but since he left for a six month trip to Australia, I had time to play this game. It's great (like all Elder Scrolls games) but the numerous bugs (like all Bethesda games) have killed the longevity for me. I find this a real shame because I have a lot of quests still to do.

Luckily I managed to do all guilds and the main storyline. I think the Thieves' Guild was, by far, the coolest questline to follow -- it even outclassed the Dark Brotherhood, in my opinion. Normally, people really dig the assassins but in Skyrim, for me, the thieves came out on top.


The rest of my game time I spend on Dark Souls. What an amazing game. I have a Dexterity build but it's too high level for my tastes. I'm having a lot of fun with my mid-level Sorcery build and co-oping, helping people out with difficult bosses.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Mar 12th, 2012, 12:30pm

Got Mass Effect 3 friday

The shooting is now really good and it really does feel big and epic. Your never really sure what is gonne happen and characters you've grown to like will die . The end is fucking unbelievable....i just sat there for a few minutes pretty much open mouthed thinking there's gotta be more, this is so awful it can't be real, alas it was. I really can't overstate how fucking complete shit it is sad

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 13th, 2012, 02:26am

I have not played Mass Effect 3 yet -- I will buy the game when I have more time -- but I have, unfortunately, seen multiple people complain about the ending. Sounds really disappointing or bad even.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Mar 21st, 2012, 1:09pm

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The real hero of Mass Effect. He tried to save us from the ending
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 6th, 2012, 05:15am

I finished Journey and Borderlands: Game of the Year edition.

Journey was phenomenal. I truly find that game a piece of art. It has a heavy price tag for a short game, though. I found it money well-spent.

Borderlands was really enjoyable. I got it on a whim, quite cheap. I usually do not like first-person shooters but this one had humour and co-op. I especially found the references to Fallout and Bioshock funny in the 'Claptrap's New Robot Revolution' DLC.

I just started on Fallout: New Vegas. I have to get into it. The controls, movement and combat are really bad like all Bethesda games/games with the Bethesda engine. When the story grabs me, I hope that will allow me to look past the game's flaws. I heard the story mechanics and humour are really good in Fallout: New Vegas so I am willing to find it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 21st, 2012, 12:33pm

Never continued Fallout: New Vegas. I never got hooked, I guess. I will get into it eventually. I'm just not interested in gaming these past few weeks. I played a lot of Dark Souls but all the glitchers, cheaters and lag have worn me out.

I did see that Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes gets rave reviews:

Knightwing video review
IGN video review
Newsarama written review

I really want to get it based on the scores, especially with the great voice acting.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jun 25th, 2012, 09:07am

Wii U: confirmation that Nintendo is desperately trying to catch up to the zeitgeist, rather than creating it? The Wii worked well, though they did a terrible job exploiting its gimmick and its market-penetration. Have to love that Nintendo finally found a way to do the GameBoy thing on dedicated consoles: have tech that is 5+ years behind the curve as your "new" release.

The iPad controller as argument for outdated technology doesn't seem nearly as strong as the Wii gimmick. Motion control, rather than dual-screens, was somewhat unique. This is a Frankenstein's monster of Apple product matched to the DS, with hardware about as powerful as a 360.

With the 3DS, they're now into a decade of recycling GameCube tech, which magically goes up in price as it ages. Perhaps most pathetic is that it still seems underutilized by most developers, just as it was the first time around.

Anyway. I'm on the verge of buying a Vita. Except I know they'll price-drop it right after I do.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 25th, 2012, 10:46am

on Jun 25th, 2012, 09:07am, Will wrote:
Anyway. I'm on the verge of buying a Vita. Except I know they'll price-drop it right after I do.
I will probably get a PS Vita as well but I will wait at least a year. Although Gravity Rush looks and sounds incredible, I feel no need to get it now. It's Summer so I don't need a portable gaming device since I will be spending most of my time in the sun. I guess we will see a price drop just before Christmas.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jun 27th, 2012, 07:39am

I'm concerned about the firmware. It's important to get an early build for easier hacks and homebrew. It's almost definitely powerful enough to emulate Model 3. Handheld Scud Racer...

Sony's marketing has been lacking, though. A price-drop will happen sooner rather than later. And then there's the question of where its market is at. Is it there at all, here and now or five years ago?

I really hope that smartphones and tablets don't cause the death of high-end dedicated vg portables.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 27th, 2012, 4:10pm

Ah yeah, Firmware and the homebrew community. I never did anything with that with my PSP but I can see the appeal.

I don't think that smartphones and tablets will destroy handheld videogame devices but they are competitors of sorts. Not for the same type of game but for the same free time. I hope developers will notice that soon and start adjusting their prices to actually challenge the simple games played on smartphones.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jun 28th, 2012, 12:31pm

on Jun 27th, 2012, 4:10pm, TheMidnighter wrote:
Ah yeah, Firmware and the homebrew community. I never did anything with that with my PSP but I can see the appeal.


The CPS2 emulation alone justified the PSP for me.

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I don't think that smartphones and tablets will destroy handheld videogame devices but they are competitors of sorts.


Depends. Different markets? Yeah, in a way.

The tablet/phone market is far bigger. And big enough that they might just swallow the video game market as a side-benefit.

In a way, the Wii showed this potential, even though Nintendo is the only true video game company/console manufacturer that's still going. Sony/Microsoft brand convergence means that the machines they put out for this market are always truly trojan horses of a sort: how to get a bigger hold on multimedia mindshare through a single device , or a couple devices in tandem (PS3/Vita).

Anyway, the early Wii triumph was to attract different demos -- women, the elderly, child molesters (well, a Nintendo staple?) -- to play games, both because of the motion control and also because of the simplicity of product.

A flood of cheap apps may really signal this sea change. As a gamer that wants challenge and intricacy, it's likely to be the end of games, at least in handheld form, if it progresses.

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I hope developers will notice that soon and start adjusting their prices to actually challenge the simple games played on smartphones.


The simple have a circular advantage: they require fewer resources -- often far fewer -- and thus can charge less for the finished game.

How do you get dev costs down for a big release on Vita that is almost as big a design chore as PS3 softs?

The counter-argument(?), or present and parallel problem is that as dev costs have risen on "big" games the industry has become far more limited and predictable s far as tone and design parameters on gameplay.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Aug 4th, 2012, 10:34am

I bought a second PSP to run custom firmware on. Finally I'll be able to play all those games that never properly arrived in Europe (e.g., Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Xenogears, Brave Fencer Musashi). I always wanted to play those games -- I read the advertisements in the American comics I bought -- but a lot of games never made it to these shores.

I guess I'm holding out for some horrible winter weather to fully appreciate all the titles I will finally be able to sink my teeth into.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Aug 15th, 2012, 6:17pm

I don't want to over-hype it, but Chrono Trigger may still be my favorite RPG. Then again, there is Earthbound...

There were a lot of great JRPGs from that era that didn't get a release in the US or any western country. but, over the last decade, emulation and fan-translations have quietly made old games new. Seiken Densetsu 3 comes to mind, as does the early Front Mission stuff; I haven't played much of the latter, but the translation seemed serviceable.

http://superfamicom.org/translations/info/seiken-densetsu-3-english
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/frontmission/frontmission.htm

Have you ever played Snatcher? The Sega/Mega CD iso is easy to emulate on PSP, and I think the game is a far better realisation of digital storytelling than the uncomfortable mix (particularly between gameplay and cut scenes) that MGS2 became.

There's also a fan translation of Policenauts.

http://policenauts.net/english/
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Aug 16th, 2012, 4:23pm

Chrono Trigger is the very first game I will start playing. I had always been more enticed by Chrono Cross as a youngster but 1) Trigger is the first game, so I want to play that first, and 2) many people have said they preferred Chrono Trigger over Chrono Cross.

I had never heard about Earthbound until you mentioned it. It sounds like an intriguing, perhaps even quirky title. I do know Snatchers and Policenauts but never played them. I can try and find them but I am in no hurry, quite frankly, as I have far too many games on the to-do list.

Also, Will, apparently Sony is trying to reduce the costs (and consequently price) for the PS Vita but the price won't go down this year. I guess they'd like to score big during the Christmas season when Call of Duty arrives for Vita (all teens will want one).
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Aug 20th, 2012, 07:38am

I bought Chrono Cross in 2001(?). I don't think ever got off the first disc. I was never really taken with it the way I was Trigger, but I don't know if I can fairly judge it.

That was a long way of saying "...".

Earthbound is kind of like David Lynch growing up in Japan and then producing a sitcom that becomes Saturday morning cartoon that becomes a videogame; put another way, it's Peanuts on acid. It's pleasantly and casually insane. A postmodern videogame, with HAL improving upon, by making fun of, various parts of the genre throughout.

The game starts out with the RPG cliche of a party on a quest, with turn-based fights (duh)...except the other members of your party are a spineless fat kid who begs for mercy and a dog that pushes you in front of the enemy's attacks. Later on, you fight...hippies.

Too bad it bombed in the West. But that's probably the price for quirky brilliance being sold to a tween demographic. The sequel, Mother 3, wasn't released in America or Europe, but it was a given a fan translation.

http://mother3.fobby.net/

I don't know if you like Action RPGs, but even if you don't I'd suggest you give Secret of Evermore a try. It got slagged for not being Secret of Mana or Seiken Densetsu 3 (what would have been Mana 2), but it may actually play better than Densetsu 3 while providing environments that are more unique than those in Mana. Since the game was developed in America, it's biggest sin may be that it had more mainstream Western appeal during a time when most of the genre's audeince were Japanophiles.

http://www.secretofevermore.org/

Vita? You might as well be an augur with that news. Now we both know I'll cave...
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Aug 31st, 2012, 1:48pm

I am completely loving Chrono Trigger. I am almost at the end now. I could say that I have the option to confront the final boss in the game but you have that option about five minutes in already. Let's say then that I have done almost everything else except beating the final boss.

This is such a well-made game. I am playing the PlayStation port and the graphics and character animations look amazing. The effects during battles (e.g., when performing Techs) show off some quality graphical design as well.

The very best part about the gameplay for this RPG -- and let me stress that this is a nineties JRPG from the SNES era -- is that there is absolutely no grinding necessary. I played through the game and have never had to stop to level grind (i.e., to keep fighting enemies in one area and levelling up because the enemies in the next area are too powerful to beat). No level grinding necessary in a nineties JRPG. If that does not speak volumes of the games balance and difficulty progression, I don't know what would.

As a matter of fact, the only time I got the "game over" screen, was during a boring series of successive battles. The battles became tedious and I was just pressing the attack button without paying attention. The fact that I was not looking at the screen got me killed.

Having said that, battles seem to depend a lot on the party you take with you. It's important to maintain diversity -- you could suddenly face an enemy immune to one type of attack (e.g., physical). If you have only brought melee fighters, that enemy will prove hard.

The anime cutscenes are a treat but I really dig Japanese anime. They are done by Akira Toriyama, creator of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, who also designed the Chrono Trigger characters. You can tell his studio made these cutscenes when his style had evolved to what it became during the Freeza Saga (and beyond).

The music sounds fantastic, as it should. The tunes never bore and some are even downright catchy. The range of styles is almost flabbergasting.

I have my hopes up for a great ending to a great journey. Character Robo has already hinted at what this journey might mean but I have no clue what he means. I will see at the end. So far, the journey has bought me laughter, awesome boss battles, a death of a party member and a great cast of characters. Onward to the ending(s)!

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Hey Will, I got the Mother 3 fan translation and played around a bit. What a funny game! Lovely old-school and showcasing lush colours. It takes me back to the days where my brother would enjoy his Gameboy, Gameboy Color and Gameboy Advance. I will also try and get the Densetsu 3 and Mana games. I might never play them since I have so many games on the backlog but I will get them.


As for the PS Vita, its games I am looking forward to are Gravity Rush, Sound Shapes, Tearaway, Soul Sacrifice (might be good, might not be; too little information still), LittleBigPlanet and Persona 4 Golden. I know it's 'only' six games but I think that's quite a lot already. Six games can get me through the year easily, especially when I have other systems as well (PS3 and PSP) where I have unfinished games for.

I never had any warm feelings for the PS Vita but the conversation we have been having in this thread has allowed the PS Vita to find its way into my wishlist. I might not get it this year and most likely not with its current price tag. Still, the PS Vita looks good and several Vita games seem like software I would really enjoy.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Sep 6th, 2012, 08:41am

Apparently, there's a PS Vita homebrew in the works. It's not the entire code, it will not be finished for months, but it's on its way. Of course the obligatory "it does not allow illegal games to be played" has been uttered but we all know someone else will figure out how to do exactly that.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Sep 20th, 2012, 02:29am

I liked Chrono Trigger enough back in 1995 that it helped get me banned from a Hollywood Video; I picked it up, along with the rather unremarkable/atrocious SNES version of Killer Instinct, on the day of release. The people behind the counter found their level of incompetence and mismarked all the new releases as five day rentals. I took advantage of this, keeping both games (which is interesting since, let's face it, KI is trash) for about fifteen days. So by their math I owed them about $50 in rentals by the time I returned the games. Um, no. Not paying that. $30 more and I would have had a new copy (SNES RPGs were generally $20 more than any other cart). I rented the games knowing I had them on a technicality and I was generally good at arguing cases in video rental dumps on ridiculous late charges but ... I think I didn't go in for a few months and there was no way the fucking idiots would remember what they'd done by that point. Game, set, match.

They didn't share a database between stores, so I just went to the one across town. It's always interesting when you con people who conned themselves, then figure out that you made yourself the mark. Or at least left one.

Was there a point to this or have I provided a tween girl's blog post? I hope that isn't rhetorical.

Chrono Trigger might have been Square at their peak, at the very least maxing out the genre for that generation. And doing it right on time. Like Yoshi's Island (Mario meets fauvism) it came during a year that was really top heavy at the end for Nintendo, but I didn't buy either because of all the Playstation hype from September on. Battle Arena Toshinden was the greatest game ever for 1995, and abysmal by July of the next year. Oh well. Jumping Flash! and Twisted Metal held up ... well, I'm sure Twisted Metal is a timecapsule gem at best at this point but it was the shit 99it's amazing how those descriptions invert and liberalize now) in November 1995 and remained solid through the PSX life cycle.

But yeah, getting rid of random battles -- allowing players to avoid grinding -- was a major, major step for JapRPGs. Chrono Trigger remained ahead of its time because of this feature, and it looked better than crap like Beyond the Beyond on Playstation. Well, it was better in just about every way compared to anything that came out on Playstation as far as RPGs (which was close to nothing in the States) until 1997.

As far as (lack of) tedious battles, I can't think of a better SNES RPG.

It's also probably the most self-aware Square game of that era as far as graphics/music=artistic intent as complete production. In a funny way its grander intent and sense of stylistic purpose as a (rudimentary?) means to an end, was a precursor to all the CG cut-scenes that would soon follow on Sony's platform. The game's structure, looking at it with hindsight (and isn't that easy), makes it clear that Nintendo's policy vis a vis carts was going to end their relationship with Square. More than likely that was for the better: the audience for the Playstation was more age-appropriate (I was playing Square's stuff as a kid but...) and CDs meant both lower costs and more expansive cinematic possibilities.

Maybe my opening statements have some merit after all. I know that I rented far fewer games for the Playstation because retail prices were much better. Inflation is a constant (kill the Federal Reserve) but CDs provided more games at cheap prices for both devs and consumers.

Still, I don't know if I liked a Square game on Playstation more than CT. And the SNES probably had the best games for the last third of 1995. Well it does today, maybe it didn't then. Time travel is perspective.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Sep 30th, 2012, 2:02pm

I have now completed Chrono Trigger several times for some of the endings. I even got the 'Dream Team' ending. Very cool. I hope Chrono Cross will be a worthy successor (it doesn't have to be as phenomenal, it simply has to be phenomenal).

I have played some other games in the mean time. I picked up Burnout: Paradise after more than a year. I don't particularly like racing games but this one I do from time to time. I guess because it is not as stale or boring as a simple track -- you race through an entire, vibrant city which has many, many cool things to accomplish.

I also picked up Resident Evil 5 because a friend told me the co-op was good. I guess it might be. I had my fill of Resident Evil games years ago after completing the first three instalments on the original PlayStation. I did pick up this fifth game and it was average. Gameplay was OK, even though the aiming of a weapon is incredibly stupid, the AI can be a moron and the quick-time events are unbearably bad (i.e., they require you to react lightning fast, making you miss the entire cutscene because you stare at the bottom of the screen waiting for a button prompt).

I cleared out my game collection a bit, selling a bunch. I came across the old Tenchu games (Tenchu, Tenchu 2: Birth of the Assassins, Tenchu 3: Wrath of Heaven and Tenchu: Fatal Shadows). Especially the last two instalments (both on PS2) hold up incredibly well. I recommend tracking them down if you like stealth action games. Controls work like a charm and the game offers a nice challenge without ever feeling too difficult. This series is my second favourite of al time (after Final Fantasy, which still produced some of the best games I have ever played, despite some recent missteps).
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Oct 1st, 2012, 08:40am

Haven't played RE5 but 4 was/is a game changer. I lost interest in the series after the second game due to characters that controlled like arthritic statues.

From a gameplay perspective, it's a reboot.

The point of the prior games was setup and presentation. 4 retains the schlocky cinematic conceit relatively well -- fixed angles are no longer the standard -- but offers intuitive, action-oriented gameplay for the first time.

And the voice acting is better: merely bad at its worst and even occasionally decent. Japenglish RIP. Mileage may vary as to whether that's a pro or con.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 1st, 2012, 5:13pm

I hear great stuff about Resident Evil 4. I don't think I can muster the willpower to play it after RE5, though. That one definitely won't get me excited for a Resident Evil game any time soon. Horrible aim.

Speaking about the franchise, the Resident Evil 6 reviews coming in seem quite polarised. I read the Destructoid review by Jim Sterling and, frankly, am not surprised the RE series turned out like this after playing the fifth instalment.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Oct 7th, 2012, 11:42pm

RE6 is good if you look at it like a typical action game. I wish it had more survival to it though, as I really enjoyed the church portion of the Leon section.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 9th, 2012, 5:43pm

on Oct 7th, 2012, 11:42pm, Clerk wrote:
RE6 is good if you look at it like a typical action game.
So it's just an average game, you mean?

I don't really get this reasoning. People should expect something different from a Resident Evil game than survival horror? That's the genre of the franchise.

It might be good (read: less of a letdown) if you don't expect survival horror but how can you not expect survival horror when Capcom releases the game as part of the Resident Evil franchise? If Capcom did not want people to expect survival horror, they should have had the balls to release it with a different title than "Resident Evil."

Alas, they choose not to. They decided it was best to put out a "typical action game" as part of a survival horror franchise, expecting (rightly so) better sales simply due to name recognition.

This is how industries get destroyed. We've seen it with the drivel DC and Marvel pump out in books we used to love, and we see it in game series that used to be a seal of approval but are now simply riding on the genius of auld (e.g., Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, both to a degree).
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Oct 10th, 2012, 12:37am

Did you miss the part where I said, "I wish there was more survival to it."

It's not Resident Evil, but it's still a decent game when it comes down to me playing it.

Are all these good feels that Im having while playing the game not valid because of a name on the box?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 10th, 2012, 02:05am

I'm not invalidating your enjoyment of the game Resident Evil 6. In fact, I wasn't at all making a statement against you. I wished to point out some trends that seems to take hold of several industries. If you felt personally attacked by my statement: that wasn't my intention, for which I express my apologies.

In the gaming industry, it seems Resident Evil 6 did two things: 1) lose the survival horror aspect, which is the core of the RE series, continuing in name rather than spirit; 2) try to appeal to the Call of Duty-crowd (large group of consumers playing a god awful game) at the cost of fans of survival horror just because they want a piece of that action as well.

I quoted "it's a good typical action game" because you did say that and that was the only point I wanted to reply to, even though you mentioned other things after that. Again, I don't denounce your enjoyment of the game -- hell, go play Wet and Mindjack after Resident Evil 6 if you enjoy it -- but I have seen so many people state that "while it's not survival horror any more, Resident Evil 6 is a good shooter" or something to that extend. I still don't get how that justifies the title of "Resident Evil" on the cover.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 20th, 2012, 8:19pm

I finally got my hands on several titles I wanted for quite some time. I had a lot of games I still wanted to play but I could not resist getting the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection which includes MGS2, MGS3 and MGS: Peace Walker. I really, really dig Peace Walker -- the co-op experience is unique and very well executed.

I also bought Batman: Arkham City - Game of the Year edition because I absolutely love the series. Arkham Asylum was the reason I bought a PlayStation 3 system. I have cleared my first playthrough on Hard mode and I am now looking for Riddler's riddles. I look forward to starting New Game Plus and to do the combat challenges.

Oh, Will, I'm sorry to tell you this but I got a free PS Vita.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Nov 21st, 2012, 05:23am

on Nov 20th, 2012, 8:19pm, TheMidnighter wrote:
Arkham Asylum was the reason I bought a PlayStation 3 system.


Me, too. And the Blu Ray capabilities. And Netflix. And MLB.tv
cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Nov 29th, 2012, 06:12am

Wii U breakdown:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/11/wii-u-hardware-review-gamepads-tilt-sensitivity-rocks-two-screen-gaming/
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/11/wii-u-teardown-shows-a-whole-lot-of-wirelessness/

About a week late for a console that's a half-decade out of date.

Nintendo's market strategy -- Gameboy tech retardation graduated to consoles, with the DS gimmick as chaser -- is so transparent that the above review was probably laying around on someone's hard drive for the last year.

The more interesting stuff is the minutiae, then.

A 4 hour battery life on that controller?! Ummm...

on Nov 20th, 2012, 8:19pm, TheMidnighter wrote:
I finally got my hands on several titles I wanted for quite some time. I had a lot of games I still wanted to play but I could not resist getting the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection which includes MGS2, MGS3 and MGS: Peace Walker. I really, really dig Peace Walker -- the co-op experience is unique and very well executed.


I guess Twin Snakes really was DOA; funny thing, too, since an HD version of the first MGS might draw the most interest, considering the generation gap.

We agree vis a vis Peace Walker. It's much better balance of gameplay and stylistic flourishes -- literal narrative sanity is a stretch for Kojima, so it's best to judge tone-as-content matched to pacing -- compared to MGS2, which is notable for being a game that plays great but manages(/d) to bore the hell out of me. Such is the ability of Kojima: cinematic aspirations being dragged to hell by badly-written dialogue pieces that, selfsame, suffocate gameplay into the margins.

I never played MGS3, but I liked the early Splinter Cell games quite a bit more than either MGS or 2.

Funny thing is that the original Splinter Cell is very indicative of American-made(? It may have been European/Canadian, whatevs; Western) games of the time, yet Kojima's love of Hollywood spectacle was more predictive so far as the future of console gaming, which is now dominated by European and North American devs.

Japan is still the culture that reveres the video game enough to allow for something akin to gaming auterism; I can't think of someone that would be an analogue to Kojima in the West. There have always been stars -- Carmack, et al -- but they were always closer to tech guys rather than artists (Ordinary Language Philosophy Devil's Advocate: define "artist").

I respect Kojima's intention but it wasn't until Peace Walker that I really liked the result.

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Oh, Will, I'm sorry to tell you this but I got a free PS Vita.


At those prices Sony may save the handheld market yet.

Congrats. And fuck you, man. Fuck you.

angry

You gonna crack it or stand pat?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 30th, 2012, 04:25am

on Nov 21st, 2012, 05:23am, snipe wrote:
Me, too. And the Blu Ray capabilities. And Netflix. And MLB.tv
cheesy

I think I only have the blu-ray player here in Europe. I vaguely know MLB stands for a sports association but I could be wrong.

on Nov 29th, 2012, 06:12am, Will wrote:
We agree vis a vis Peace Walker. It's much better balance of gameplay and stylistic flourishes -- literal narrative sanity is a stretch for Kojima, so it's best to judge tone-as-content matched to pacing -- compared to MGS2, which is notable for being a game that plays great but manages(/d) to bore the hell out of me. Such is the ability of Kojima: cinematic aspirations being dragged to hell by badly-written dialogue pieces that, selfsame, suffocate gameplay into the margins.
I really dug MGS2 at the time and I am 100% sure I will still love it. I despise Kojima for making fun of Raiden and giving in to Raiden basher that felt uncomfortable watching him. Raiden was portrayed as a good-looking guy with blond, long hair. If the juvenile gamer can't handle playing a game with a main character like that and they have to call him a faggot, I guess they're morons. I genuinely hate it that Kojima put a character looking like Raiden in MGS3, making him gay, giving him sparkly hair and have that character give the player a wink. What the fuck? Why couldn't Kojima just stand by his decision to have the polar opposite of Solid Snake as the protagonist for MGS2? Raiden was just as badass as Solid Snake, just better looking. The backlash against Raiden and MGS2 due to him baffles me.

Sorry. Ending rant: now.

MGS2's story was perhaps a tad too complex, or it was a solid story yet told in a confusing way. I had to play the game a second time to get a grasp on the story but the gameplay was phenomenal and such a step up from the first game. Especially the AI, the visuals and the Gregson-Williams soundtrack blew my mind.

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I never played MGS3, but I liked the early Splinter Cell games quite a bit more than either MGS or 2.
I never played any Splinter Ceel game. How sneaky do you have to be? I really like games where a sneaking approach is practically required. The HD Collection has been out a while and it offers Splinter Cell, Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory from 2002, 2004 and 2005, respectively. Are those games any good?

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Congrats. And fuck you, man. Fuck you.

Thanks. Now I need to get my hands on some good games.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Dec 18th, 2012, 04:09am

on Nov 30th, 2012, 04:25am, TheMidnighter wrote:
I never played any Splinter Ceel game. How sneaky do you have to be? I really like games where a sneaking approach is practically required. The HD Collection has been out a while and it offers Splinter Cell, Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory from 2002, 2004 and 2005, respectively. Are those games any good?


I think you'd like them based on that criteria. At the time, the first game was one of the best tech demos -- as long you bought the XBox version rather than the dumbed-down GameCube/PS2 releases -- but the game felt technical, methodical and serious. SCell was sexy as both execution of an idea -- high-level espionage -- and as a technical showcase of graphics and gameplay.

It's not grandiose or operatic like Gear, as some levels have you doing things like planting a listening device on a Chinese-national's limo or staying out of sight while being hunted through an office building.

The pacing on the first game, which made the biggest impression on me, was arguably one of the best of that generation.

Definitely check it out.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Dec 19th, 2012, 05:44am

I have ordered the HD Collection. Thanks.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jan 4th, 2013, 3:54pm

I am now 34 hours into our (my brother, a mutual friend and myself) Final Fantasy XIII marathon. We're on Chapter 12 (of 13).
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jan 17th, 2013, 06:32am

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And a not half-bad rejoinder-as-segue to intel on a new portable:


Hands On With NVIDIA Project Shield
Shawn Ingram — 01/14/2013

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Project Shield is NVIDIA’s first attempt at creating its own mobile device, and after a few minutes with the device it seems like an impressive first effort.

Holding the NVIDIA Shield feels a lot like holding a game controller like the Xbox 360 or Dreamcast controller. It’s somewhat large, but still easy to hold, and at under one pound it’s also relatively light.

The Shield can run any Android game, and the controller will work with any device in the TegraZone. The demo units on display had Real Boxing, Rochard and an early version of Hawken for Android installed. All three games played smoothly on the device. Real Boxing and Rochard especially showed the Tegra 4 is capable of producing some fantastic graphics in Android games.

NVIDIA also showed the Shield streaming games from a PC. We played a few minutes of Need For Speed: Most Wanted on the device hooked up to a HDTV. The game looked just as great as it does on the PC on both the 5-inch screen and HDTV, and there was very little discernible lag.

The biggest problem with playing games on the NVIDIA Shield was that it was difficult to focus on just one screen at a time. That’s not a problem when using only the 5-inch screen, or when both displays show the same screen. Games like Real Boxing, however, have a separate spectator mode on the HDTV, so the player has to look at the 5-inch Retinal Display to see their stats and game info.

The button layout of the NVIDIA Shield is similar to the Xbox 360, but with one major difference: the joysticks are next to each other instead of staggered. The button layout is the same, which is helpful as most PC games use the Xbox 360 controller as the default for controller inputs.

NVIDIA says it still has to tweak the buttons on the Shield to make them more responsive, but this didn’t seem like an issue for the few minutes we had with the device.

There wasn’t any time to test the pure Android UI on the Project Shield, but after playing games on the screen for a few minutes the device will likely look great when playing movies from the Play Store as well. The speakers were also difficult to test on the show floor, but NVIDIA claims the speakers in the Shield have bass response to rival devices like the Jawbone Jambox.

There are still a few bugs the company needs to work out, specifically when it comes to streaming PC games (one system ran into an infinite loop when opened to stream PC games), but the hardware looks very nice. After just a few minutes we can’t wait to get out hands on the final version.

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 9th, 2013, 2:03pm

After the weeks of fitness and jogging to get my stamina and body back into its usual condition (as opposed to the picture posted by Will for anyone that didn't get it), I have to ask:

Who got Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch? I got a normal edition but am also on the prowl for a Wizard's Edition.

Also, I'm reviewing the Hitman HD Trilogy for a gaming website (free games, baby!) and not all of them have aged well.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Feb 13th, 2013, 7:08pm

I'm curious how you'd tackle this in an article:

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Microsoft’s next console will require an Internet connection in order to function, ruling out a second-hand game market for the platform. A new iteration of Xbox Live will be an integral part of Microsoft’s next console, while improved Kinect hardware will also ship alongside the unit.

Sources with first-hand experience of Microsoft’s next generation console have told us that although the next Xbox will be absolutely committed to online functionality, games will still be made available to purchase in physical form. Next Xbox games will be manufactured on 50GB-capacity Blu-ray discs, Microsoft having conceded defeat to Sony following its ill-fated backing of the HD-DVD format. It is believed that games purchased on disc will ship with activation codes, and will have no value beyond the initial user.

Our source has also confirmed that the next Xbox’s recently rumoured specs are entirely accurate. That means an AMD eight-core x64 1.6GHz CPU, a D3D11.x 800MHz graphics solution and 8GB of DDR3 RAM. As of now, the console’s hard drive capacity is said to be undecided, but Microsoft’s extended commitment to online delivery suggests that it will be the largest unit it has put inside a console to date.

Though the architectures of the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation both resemble that of PCs, several development sources have told us that Sony’s solution is preferable when it comes to leveraging power. Studios working with the next-gen Xbox are currently being forced to work with only approved development libraries, while Sony is encouraging coders to get closer to the metal of its box. Furthermore, the operating system overhead of Microsoft’s next console is more oppressive than Sony’s equivalent, giving the PlayStation-badged unit another advantage.

Unlike Nintendo, Microsoft is continuing to invest heavily in motion-control interfaces, and a new, more reliably responsive Kinect will also ship alongside the next Xbox. Sony’s next-generation console camera system is said to have a similar set of features, and is expected to be discussed at the company’s PlayStation event on February 20.

You can read more about how Sony’s next generation console compares in last week’s story, PlayStation 4 revealed.


Obviously, still technically a rumor. But this is the problem with a duopoly or oligopoly. No doubt that if Mcrosoft does this Sony will as well.

The argument being made to one side misses the analog, as equal is opposite here; just as Microsoft wouldn't dare do this if Sony wasn't going to follow suit, it can as easily, or perhaps more logically, be argued that Sony cannot allow Microsoft to corner the market through this plan. If Microsoft does away with the ability to resell discs, then Sony must as well.

Why? Because, more important than consumer reaction (which is immediate rage, then most often docile and accepting), is developer reaction. All devs want to do with the resale market, and if one of The Big Two corners this for their softs, one can safely assume that their console will receive better support, likely resulting in exclusive releases.

There's the argument of the First Sale Doctrine in the US and Europe, but I rather doubt that it will be upheld to a degree that stops Microsoft/Sony from effectively installing killswitches in software. Software as a physical presence will become disposable. So, sure, you'll be able to resell the disc, if you can find a buyer for something that is effectively useless.

Where this is all headed is obvious, and it has been for a very long time. The first issue is to make all distribution digital. But eventually the result will be to create a system, and culture from that system, where people Pay per Play. Whenever you play a game? You pay. Whenever you watch a movie? You pay. Whenever you listen to a track? You pay.

Sound crazy? Well, the psychological test is getting people to move away from physical ownership. That's relatively close to done. After that it likely won't be that difficult to get people to view ownership as a thing of the past. This will particularly be easy in regards to future generations who will only know a system of digital integration and distribution.

The best counter will be online and physical retail outlets. But...even Amazon continues to build for this inevitability, likely seeing itself as major player in the new market. Physical retail chains are continually losing marketshare and stores.

Then compound this viewpoint with, for instance, the united States government's complicity. We've already seen hints of this with the Kim Dotcom farce, where Megaupload was destroyed on the pretext that a site or service is responsible wholly for what its users do with it (by that standard the government should shut down every major corporate supplier in the world). The internet, specifically torrent sites, will have to be reborn and so tightly regulated that people cannot find copies of digital content. (remember that it's perfectly legal to download a copy, for free, of a game you've already purchased; though the government and companies like Sony would prefer to pretend otherwise, and likewise act out under that schema).

The dream of the Digital Hub is getting closer to fruition. And within it, the consumer's power will likely dwindle to that of a serf.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Feb 17th, 2013, 02:04am

Developers would love that to happen. Of course, Sony and Microsoft want to crush the secondhand market as well: software is where they make most of their profits.

This generation it has been apparent that Sony and Microsoft want to oppose the selling of used games. That's why we have DLC codes you get with newly purchased games and Season/Online Passes. If you buy your games new, you can use these codes but after use, they're not valid any more. Buy a used copy and you will have to buy the DLC or Online Pass again (or be left out of, for example, multiplayer).

I buy lots of games secondhand. If it's not a used copy, I will get the game a few months after release just so it has an affordable price. I rarely buy a game on day one new. I do always check if a game has any vouchers that come with it. If it does, I usually refrain from buying used copies and just wait until I either find a cheap copy new or until I forget about the game's existence.

These measures are acceptable, although I don't particularly like them. They're right on the border for me. I feel I should have the right to sell on my games if I want as I also have the right to buy used copies. With these measures, Sony and Microsoft make it more appealing to buy new copies. This is, like I said, acceptable to me. Make it more appealing but leave the choice with the consumer.

News like this -- the next-generation consoles cannot play used copies -- is a completely different story to me and would piss me off to no end should it prove true. Sony and Microsoft would then outlaw the legal reselling of a product. Can they prohibit me from selling a used game? Well, basically I could sell whatever game I wanted. No one would buy it though since it's worthless. So it wouldn't be as if the made it illegal for me to sell my software. They'd simply destroy the secondhand market.

I am already thinking of letting this generation be my last console. I do not like DLC-riddled games and I already dislike where the market seems to be headed. But this would definitely close the lid on me keeping up with current games. It is something I would never condone let alone support financially (the only support that matters). I would play the backlog I have accumulated over the years and experience awesome games. You know, the kind where you knew developers gave it their all to put as much quality content in a game. Where they didn't cut out parts to give you hidden chapters or the true ending as DLC.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Mar 20th, 2013, 07:07am

Anybody read Kotaku? I don't.

Well, I do. Kind of. It shows up on Flipboard and Pulse. Newsreaders, honestly, only reveal the paucity of both overall writing ability in the Western world, and the lack of anything approaching journalistic autonomy (contradiction in terms); there are basically three categories: gossip, demagogics (i.e. political theatre from the elite, either by continent or internationally, telling us over and over and over what we all want, no matter how damaging), and a neverending barrage of feminized lifestyle tips.

Kotaku and most tech websites fall under the umbrella of the latter, with some brow beating here and there on how intolerant and awful white males are.

That exception(? wait, it must be the rule) is what entertains me most. Much like comics, the video game industry is dominated by males. Lack of melanin may not be as monolithic, so what we're left with on the VG side are calculated Gender Bias articles. Absolutely hilarious stuff.

About a month ago, they ran a long article decrying the lack of non-male (likely 'White' was thrown around as pejorative for good measure) leads in video games. Now, this is a constant complaint. Because, you know, the market for Feminine Hygiene Sims and adaptations of HBO's Girls is absolutely huge. Personally, I've never minded playing as female leads, and I rather doubt that it's that big of a deal to the mostly-male audience; I wasn't aware that Tomb Raider had trouble selling, you know?

The point that is danced around, heavily, for fear of stumbling upon Gender Stereotype Threat, is that the "problem" here is circular: males buy games, not about male protags, period, but simply games that appeal to males. Blockbuster games are spectacles, and they are mainly built on action tropes. The real complaint is quite typical, in other words: someone pushed equality, then decided that all races, ethnicities, creeds and genders should be equally represented...at least when there are "too many" White Males interested in something.

If a woman likes a game it's quite typical that the game will be some kind of social network tripe that you can play on Facebook. In other words, a game where you either tap or click, with the only real challenge being whether the player wants to wait for another 3 hours for some beans to sprout as opposed to paying $3.99 to make the "task" instantaneous. Pressure!

This point isn't likely to be made for the aforementioned reason and, frankly, because it would reveal that by diversifying the games industry you inevitably change it. And likely not for the better (see the Wii, with games made for 70 year olds and women, and thus these selfsame games play themselves). So instead we have to pretend that intolerance is to blame for preference. But of course, etymology and reasoning should tell us that a Standard itself is also, intrinsically, Discrimination.

Anyway, short treatise but long digression later, my original point: Kotaku is a ridiculous site. And all the better for it. Kind of.

So what makes it ridiculous? Obviously PC Gender remonstrations that recollect Larry Summers' aborted tenure at Harvard are de rigeur. But the extent of it so typical of this heterodoxy we call the Modern West that it's hard to tell if the editors are True Believers or brilliant purveyors of parody.

So what we get are articles moaning about lack of Transgender representation in mainstream video games. That's right. A game aimed at the mass market is in no way supposed to either represent or appeal to that market. Instead tens of millions are to be spent on a game's development to promote the lifestyle of a minority of people that have decided they were born with the wrong equipment.

Best of all, I just did a search for the article only to discover that I can't easily pull it up on search. Why? Oh. Because Kotaku has too many articles dealing with the wonders of gender reassignment for me to easily access it (operative).

Parallel to, they also have the occasional Feminist Fulmination. A couple weeks ago it was some chick complaining about the PS4 launch in NY. Why? Not because of anything to do with Sony's Next Gen plans, mind you, but instead because, horrors, MEN directly involved with the project presented their product. You see, now women absolutely must be on-stage for the reveal of any company's new technology. The same woman made it clear that she may not be able to buy a PS4 because of this attack on her gender by Sony execs.

Of course, by this standard, she shouldn't be talking on her phone, driving her car, getting on a plane or posting anything to the internet. I could agree with her point if it would lead to this logical conclusion: after all, then she'd shut up.

But why let logic get in the way? And why shouldn't Victoria's Secret runway shows feature short, 40-something fraus with stretch marks in lingerie? And where are the men in thongs, right?

Kotaku is just another symptom of a garbage victim culture that cries "hate" while projecting bile on to the same bogeyman we've been hearing about since the 60s.

Specified, it's just great. As a a sociological study it couldn't be much more obvious: Beta Males trying to curry favor with the mythical creatures known as Women (likely none of the idiots writing these articles have or had a GF, or they'd realize how fucking unlikely it is for women to give a fuck about the latest Metroid or GTA; instead they'd realize that girls tend to get pissed when you want to spend hours playing a game), Prototype Feminists that can only find meaning in any subject by pushing a mix of self-righteous superiority and victimology, and a minority within a minority that is pretty much a conflation of those two.

I've gotta hand it to Kotaku. I mean their writers are awful and moronic, and this stretches through on logic and subject matter. But the supratext of it is pretty brilliant, assuming someone gets the joke.

I kind of doubt it. At the same time, there's no doubt they understand that these articles will get hits.

It does remind of the joke about why Freak Shows and The Weekly World News went out of business. How could either compete when pop culture itself is the freak show? It's Jerry Springer's world, we're just living in it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 9th, 2013, 1:32pm

Batman: Arkham Origins is coming.

It's made by a different studio. Let's hope they've watched Rocksteady work their magic and let's hope they know how to create a similarly awesome game.



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Story

- Takes place on Christmas Eve
- Years before the previous two games
- Mob boss Black Mask will give a fortune for Batman’s head
- Top assassins and supervillains from the DC Comics universe are out to get Batman
- Cops on the take from the mob join the manhunt as well
- Batman needs to outsmart his enemies, find out why Black Mask wants him dead, and prove to what good cops that he’s on their side

General

- Porting Arkham City to Wii U let the team get familiar with Unreal 3
- Doing a prequel lets the team carve a unique territory if Rockstar were to move the Arkham timeline ahead down the road
- Rocksteady’s project is tightly under wraps
- Younger Batman also “gives us the opportunity to refresh things a bit”
- Combat system still in place
- Will have “new layers, new opportunities, and new tactics”
- New enemy types
- Batman not as finely honed as in the previous games
- Won’t control the Batwing directly
- Batwing will figure into story sequences and acts as a universe-appropriate form of fast travel
- Has the traditional predator mode in which players swing from perch to perch, glide kick, string guys upside-down, etc.
- New remote claw that is like the grappler in Just Cause 2
- Batman targets two objects and fires out a claw
- This hooks into the first object and launches another claw and rope to the second object
- Can then pull the two objects together
- Use this to knock enemies together, slam heavy objects into foes, string objects or people under a perch
- Can string up an explosive barrel under a perch, lure enemies with a sonic batarang, then cut the rope with a normal batarang, dropping the explosive on their heads
- Team knows Black Mask isn’t the most popular villain
- Old Gotham is only half of the game world
- Another new entire is across the bridge called New Gotham
- New Gotham is classier and has much taller skyscrapers
- New zone doubles the size of the game world
- Players can dismantle the hacked tower network
- Towers emit a jamming signal that prevents the Batwing from flying into the area, meaning no fast travel
- It also halts Batman’s sensors from placing points of interest on the map
- Taking down the towers are varied and require all of Batman’s navigation, puzzle solving, and combat skills
- Some can be taken down quickly, others must be returned to later with an upgrade
- “Crime in Progress”: ex – saving some cops from a group of thugs, rescuing a snitch from being tossed off a roof
- Activities give Batman a chance for experience point bonuses
- Completing side quests also contributes to the GCPD’s understanding and appreciation of Batman
- They will begin to know Batman and which side he stands on based on how much you take on the optional missions
- Most Wanted system gives players a chance to go after villains outside of the core storyline
- These optional side missions can be tackled when you discover them
- Many optional missions offer upgrades
- Batman’s butler Alfred may notice that he had a tough time in that situation and give him a new gadget
- Dark Knight system is slightly more behind the scenes, though it’s still important
- Dark Knight system provides a lengthy string of tasks that slowly goes up in difficulty as the game progresses
- The team wants to avoid boring tutorials while still training players to be masters of predator and combat systems
- Complete a certain number of counters or silent takedowns to receive XP rewards or a specific upgrade
- Dark Knight system doesn’t replace challenge mode
- Team wants to make challenges more meaningful

Game demo

- Takes place about an hour into the game
- Batman is perched above Jezebel plaza
- Black Mask’s assassins have stirred up the local thugs
- No towering walls keeping villains in check and many citizens call Arkham City home since there isn’t a prison
- Amusement Mile hasn’t been flooded
- Batman is looking to find out why Black Mask is trying to kill him
- Batman decides to go to the party to track down Penguin, who hears about everything
- Eventually, Penguin gives some intel on a murder at Lacey Towers
- Claw grips Batman’s ankle and drags him out of the room before he can finish his questioning
- Batman reaches for the door, but his arm is stomped by a mysterious figure
- Batman ends up suspended upside-down from the rafters
- Deathstroke circles Batman with a drawn sword
- Batman blocks and disarms Deathstroke, using the sword to cut himself free
- Thanks to Penguin’s tip, Batman goes to Lacey Towers
- The cops say it’s a double homicide
- One victim is supposedly Black Mask
- Inside the apartment, Batman sees Black Mask’s girlfriend strung up on a chandelier
- Black Mask’s assumed body is laying face up across the room
- Batman goes into first-person detective vision to examine the situation

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Apr 9th, 2013, 8:52pm

I'm somewhat excited, but since different people are producing and writing it...I don't know.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on May 21st, 2013, 04:35am

I'm sure we've all seen this?


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jun 7th, 2013, 08:56am

So, how about Xbox1? It's everything Microsoft wanted since at least WebTV. So, no real surprise.

I've known what Microsoft was after, gaming as trojan horse, since before the Xbox was released in 2001. Xbox is a (sub)brand of MS that couldn't be any more transparent. The original system even looks like some kind of imperialistic tank with Matrix green/binary trimmings; it's a wannabe Orwellian nightmare in fifty pounds of plastic.

But now. Now we have the real thing. Behold:

Microsoft’s Xbox One Used Games Policies Are Clear as Mud

Will Xbox One allow you to trade in and resell disc-based games? Yes…sort of, says Microsoft in its fresh “How Games Licensing Works on Xbox One“ explainer, before winding up like some star NFL kicker and punting the ball downfield.

Before we proceed, give this a quick read — the relevant text:


Quote:
Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.

Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

In our role as a game publisher, Microsoft Studios will enable you to give your games to friends or trade in your Xbox One games at participating retailers. Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this. In addition, third party publishers can enable you to give games to friends. Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.


First things first: Contrary to some of the alarmist rumors kicked around by the gossip blogs last month, Microsoft’s confirming it won’t charge a fee if you hand a game off to someone else with an Xbox One. It also won’t charge a fee if you choose to trade-in your used disc-based games. In fact, the company’s basically saying it and fees are like celebrity news sites and responsible reporting — just not happening.

But, and get ready because here comes the ball on that punt, notice all this language about “third party publishers.” Third party publishers — some of used gaming’s fiercest critics, mind you — are accorded final say when it comes to whether you’ll be able to resell a disc-based game or not (and whether you’ll have to pay a fee to do so) or hand game over to your friends.

That means precisely what it seems to: Your right to do any of this stuff with disc-based games just took a serious nosedive with the Xbox One. Instead of making the Xbox One the arbiter, Microsoft’s leaving us in the hands of third parties. “We’re just the messenger!” might as well be the Xbox One’s theme song.

Let’s talk about choices. Microsoft had several here as the middleman. It could have chosen to stand for consumer rights and forced game publishers to lay down on, for instance, disc-based trade-ins. Instead, presumably under pressure from these publishers, it’s choosing to externalize those responsibilities. If EA decides it doesn’t want you trading in Madden NFL or wants to impose a transfer fee on the transaction, that’s EA’s business. If Activision wants to prevent you from giving a friend a copy of Call of Duty to anyone, that’s Activision’s affair.

[..]

In addition to being a generally terrible idea, this notion of restricting disc-based games is also inconsistent: Xbox One doesn’t prevent giving (or lending) of disc-based movies or TV shows. Like Xbox One’s inconsistent Internet connectivity requirements, Microsoft’s singling out games, doubtless to squeeze more blood from the stone. Why, as disc-based games are in their twilight days, couldn’t the company have just endorsed the status quo?

There’s a sidebar here about digital, non-disc-based games and the resale of digital content — something we can’t currently do. If you believe, as many do (via the First-sale doctrine, and most of history) that you have a right to resell a good you’ve paid for — digital or otherwise — then Microsoft’s entire Xbox One licensing philosophy collapses (as, to be fair, does everyone else’s). I mention it only to make you aware, if you’re not, that the legal debate over our ability to resell digital content (still very much a physical good) is ongoing.

Microsoft marketing department is keen to remind us that the Xbox One’s architecture is “modern.” You’ll note the word is used prominently in two of the company’s three Xbox One explainer pages. “We’re making these choices because it’s the “modern” thing to do” — that’s the implication, anyway. But some of these choices aren’t questions of modern versus legacy thinking. They’re about deploying modern technology to enable (and excuse) what amounts to pure and simple protectionism, and that’s never been a positive development from the vantage of consumer rights.


Read more: http://techland.time.com/2013/06/07/microsofts-xbox-one-used-games-policies-are-clear-as-mud/#ixzz2VXh2NmWp

(even these auto links are Phil Dickian, aren't they?)

I expect Sony to be mildly better. But only mildly. No way they can afford to cross third-parties too much on this issue.

Though I'd be happy to be wrong.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jun 10th, 2013, 10:23am

This is from a poster called CBOAT (i think that's it anyway) on Neogaf. Very reliable as he/she seems to be pretty much a god there

MS's plan is indeed foul
Money hating as many 3rd party devs as they can to not mention PS4 versions, rule is if they don't say exclusive it'll be on PS4
DRM was there idea. EA and Ubisoft main supporters, Activision not so much
The cloud is total bs. It's sole purpose is DRM
The DRM is far worse then you could ever imagine

That's all i can remember, as Neogaf is down right now

As for Sony, probably leave it up to publishers would be the smartest thing

Main thing i want for E3 is The Last Guardian. please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by JTurner954 on Jun 11th, 2013, 10:36am

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That's how it's done. The PS4 was also announced for $399 and it comes with three games on Playstation Plus (which will be needed to play online now).


Not that I can afford it, but it beats the pants off of Xbox One's $499 tag. If my monthly pay increases by at least 60%, I can afford a PS4.

Meanwhile, I'm keeping an eye on Wii U while working on my backlog. I'm very excited to see what Nintendo will do with HD. And if you haven't seen it yet, here is the trailer for their new Smash Bros. revealing a new character to the roster:


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jun 14th, 2013, 2:11pm



XBox One? No, Playstation won.

on Jun 10th, 2013, 10:23am, Chaos wrote:
This is from a poster called CBOAT (i think that's it anyway) on Neogaf. Very reliable as he/she seems to be pretty much a god there

MS's plan is indeed foul
Money hating as many 3rd party devs as they can to not mention PS4 versions, rule is if they don't say exclusive it'll be on PS4
DRM was there idea. EA and Ubisoft main supporters, Activision not so much
The cloud is total bs. It's sole purpose is DRM
The DRM is far worse then you could ever imagine

That's all i can remember, as Neogaf is down right now

As for Sony, probably leave it up to publishers would be the smartest thing

Main thing i want for E3 is The Last Guardian. please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Microsoft is such an overbearing caricature of monopolistic, anti-consumer avarice that they can't even be bothered to hide their interests. The only problem is that they are not a monopoly. And even if they were, I still strongly suspect that Android-powered products will create a decisive paradigm shift so far as what the industry is.

I still think Sony will backdoor it. And in a way, it's inevitable: what people are outraged about from Microsoft is, largely, what iOS and Android are making more and more commonplace. The idea of the consumer owning a copy of any media is dying, and has been going back to early iPod sales -- take away a physical copy, then you've inherently changed the nature of your business into a defacto rental space.

Quote:
Meanwhile, I'm keeping an eye on Wii U while working on my backlog. I'm very excited to see what Nintendo will do with HD. And if you haven't seen it yet, here is the trailer for their new Smash Bros. revealing a new character to the roster:


Watching Nintendo's E3 video -- ok, I watched two or three selections, not the whole thing -- was about like staring into a toilet bowl while flushing. Same old...well.

I watched Mario Kart 8 video..and saw Nintendo making a lousy sequel to Mario Kart (what else is new?) and, worse, a dumbed down F-Zero. It will sell. I watched the Wind Waker video and still can't figure out why this game has been "remade" -- it's the videogame Dorian Gray and Nintendo's graphical update is...where? Mario 3D Worlds (sp?) wasn't that exciting either, but it's their smartest release -- it's a party game rather than just a mainline Super Mario like Sunshine or Galaxy, which may actually shift more hardware to casuals. Pikmin 3 is the best piece of software and, unfortunately, it probably won't move much hardware.

There is something seriously wrong with Nintendo. They aren't taking advantage of the more advanced hardware -- relative to GameCube -- so far as visual effect(s) in-house, nor as far as the iPad/gamepad gimmick. They don't even really advertise the pad with the software at this point, likely because there's almost nothing to advertise.

Going back to N64, it's quite the change. That system was largely a strategic disaster, yet one of the main criticisms of it seems like a positive by comparison: the system was only designed the way it was to take advantage of very specific software. Mario 64 alone justified it.

The Wii U, on the other hand, is a pretty sad gimmick that even Nintendo shows barely any interest in pushing as a gamer experience or through PR. They literally came up with some frankenstein-mashup of gaming cliches grafted to the Apple zeitgeist, but along the way never developed one piece of compelling software for it. At least not specifically -- what game is on Wii U that wouldn't work 98% as well on an XB360? .

Then they show up at E3 with the same old franchises, with little or no innovation...

Nintendo used to understand that software moved hardware. It's baffling to see them handle this system so poorly on that front...but I suppose the simplest explanation is that they needed a new Wii, couldn't think of a single "big" idea, and came up with last gen's hardware, finally, that also powers a poorman's iPad.

The 3DS is a rather similar base-gimmick -- 3D is a fad, here's a 3D gameboy/DS. Anything to avoid current-gen hardware, as a start.

Nintendo's insularity is a far bigger problem than, say, Apple's because they are a much smaller company (and let's face it, Apple's flaws have to some extent developed into virtues, starting with their lack of fragmentation which, then, leads to a huge plus for software designers). It looks like EA and others see this as Nintendo's swan song and aren't even providing the usual tepid "support". I would call Wii U Dreamcast 2, except the Dreamcast was a wonderful system. What Nintendo should be doing is providing the absolute best environment for indie devs on a console; yet, as usual, they are doing barely anything here, while Sony leads the way.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 27th, 2013, 04:54am

I hope Sony stays true to the course they're heading and doesn't change its policies after everyone bought a PlayStation 4. For now, I'm cautiously excited about the PS4. I do not think I will get an Xbox One though, despite the fact Microsoft cancelled all their absurd restrictions. They've made clear their intentions and how they want to tip the balance between user friendliness and profit to their favour.

I've enjoyed some games on PS3 and PS Vita: Soul Sacrifice (great), Jacob Jones and the Bigfoot Mystery (fun little title), Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (awesome), Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 (much nicer than Fifa), LittleBigPlanet Vita (authentic LBP feel), Splinter Cell Trilogy (amazing gameplay despite being an old game) and I'm now reviewing Jak & Daxter Trilogy for PS Vita. So far I'm not impressed with the port of a remaster.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Aug 12th, 2013, 03:44am

Picked up Arkham Asylum and Arkham City.

Cutting edge, grunted the troglodyte.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Aug 13th, 2013, 09:28am

I dug both games. I managed to get three stars for all challenges in Arkham Asylum but Arkham City's challenges seem way more difficult. I still loved both games tremendously, though.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Aug 22nd, 2013, 07:40am

The game does what Batman has always done best: steal liberally from other sources, improving ideas by way of execution. It's a tagline but is the game better than its forebears?

I spotted Ninja Gaiden (the old NES Batman game was a lift of that gen's NG, too), Splinter Cell, Metroid Prime, Metal Gear Solid and...Crash Bandicoot?!

Is it better than all those games? Is it better than any of them? I don't know. It's synthesizing those games, whereas the individual softs were trying to be very specific things. Still, it pulls off a nice trick by making it feel so natural to Batman (but why not, he's a cultural chameleon) and by having gameplay that flows between stealth and grappling -- in Metal Gear, for instance, hand to hand combat never feels very natural (and again, I understand that this was deliberate design philosophy).

It's nice to see Judy Holliday...I mean Harley Quinn again. And another round with a suggestive Poison Ivy Vagina Monster/Monologue was odd nostalgia, considering the source. Though the TAS team's fingerprints can be spotted on Bane, which is quite unfortunate. The character's possibly even lamer in Asylum than he was on TAOB&R. With all these awful interpretations of the character over the years, I would say that Bane is Batman's Venom...except that is messy, confusing comparison that's only clever-as-collateral. Better to say that Bane has probably only been cool twice in his existence -- at his inception and in Rises.

Even the gameplay reflects his stupidity. So much for the steroid-abuser that not only out-muscled, but out-thought Batman.

Yes. It's a video game. But ugh. Did they have to include that luchador/clown mask from TAS?

As design template, some of the cooler stuff is with Scarecrow. It subverts narrative and, by doing that, calls attention to the fact that the game has some story and psychological-build. Batman losing his mind in Arkham is an obvious place to go.

The Joker Mouth of Madness -- Heart of Darkness(?) -- visual near the end(?) is a nice touch, too. The designers play around with the setting and play up the Lovecraftian aspects in some clever ways.

And the Sinatraesque song near the coda feels a little like something out of Kubrick's Shining. Other little details -- like one of Batman's animations being a direct lift from a 1993 Jim Aparo panel -- are either impressive or obsessive (yes, it's probably sad that I immediately spotted it).

But as games become more narrative-as-tech-demo the unfortunate side effect remains: they're becoming too easy. I've been playing this game on hard -- and yeah, I've died quite a bit -- but the checkpoint system is way too forgiving and the boss weaknesses are always completely obvious (so much for detective work).

But at least it's not a Nintendo game...that plays itself.

And I've had fun throughout. Batman is extremely fun just to dick around with because the game's design is so tight.

I haven't really played City yet, outside the very opening off the demo. I like the concept somewhat better -- Escape From New York -- as a sandbox standard.

I've also been playing Mirror's Edge, GTAIV and Dead Rising 2. Mirror's Edge is extremely cool and feels like a Sega game at their Saturn/Dreamcast peak, or maybe an 8-bit action game like Gaiden as a first-person action game. I like that it's unforgiving, and that the point seems to be, first, survival, then perfecting runs.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Sep 9th, 2013, 1:29pm

I've played and reviewed Splinter Cell: Blacklist for the website I volunteer for. I really dig the freedom the game offers to play Ghost and Panther-style gameplay. You can switch really easily. I gave it a 9/10 for the freedom of stealth (or non-stealth, if you can manage it) the game offers.

I started playing Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX, again for a review. It bothers me slightly how you cannot play larger games the way you want for a review. You cannot take your time - you need to get a feel for the game, its progression and overall feel as soon as possible. Especially with multiple-games-in-one such as these HD collections.

I still like playing, though. I never started with the KH-series and I'm glad to review this installment.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Sep 26th, 2013, 04:23am

http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2013/08/15/the-struggles-of-marketing-the-gamecube/

Interesting article/aggregation of why Nintendo is Nintendo.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Oct 3rd, 2013, 05:29am

Keep going back to Super Street Fighter IV (is the title simply awful or clever pomo nostalgia? Capcom wants you to know that they did DLC-ripoffs before they even existed), though when I do I keep negatively comparing it to Third Strike. The pacing of matches seems...off?! Different?

If it's the former it's also the latter, obviously. It's' off' -- as in, dumbed down -- thus creating a pace that's more dependent on specials than combos. The very fact that parries -- yes, flawed -- are gone instead of modified speaks volumes. This is a more casual-friendly entry.

Third Strike is arguably the apotheosis of the series and genre. It wasn't the mainstream choice, and didn't try to be. Issues of balance are always on the table for high-level play, but the game was meant for veterans -- fans, mid-level players -- while IV is an attempt to reach a broader market while reviving the fighting game market altogether.

I have no idea about the budget of the game, but it's something of an accidental case study for market penetration in the 360 era. Games are becoming less interesting as the market expands and the technology gets better. The blockbuster mentality. Not that Street Fighter was a small series, certainly it wasn't in the 90s, but its prior success allowed the main series to expand into a sort of "premium" fighter sub-genre while Capcom pumped out VS games for casual players. SSFIV feels like what it is: reintroduction, nostalgia and a play for people that would never take to a technique like parrying, certainly not the way it was implemented in III.

A sequel in name-only? Since when do sequels have to improve anything? The Arcade is dead but there is easy online Multiplayer, so that's a wash. Graphically it's pretty, though even (especially) here one can see that it's less sophisticated than the 2D Third Strike. It's not 1 step forward, 2 steps back. It's 2 and a half steps back.

Still, I like the game.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Oct 7th, 2013, 10:53pm

The last fighting game I played intensively was Tekken 3. That probably invalidates everything I'm about to say on the subject. Yet I never got into fighters again after that marvelous PSone-game. Maybe my excessive completion of Tekken 3 is to blame -- I unlocked everything with every character on that game. I may have simply burned out.

But I can see the appeal. A fighter should be intense, tactical and fast-paced. The Street Fighter-series seems to have all that. Maybe it lost a bit of its tactical side - it's what I get from your concerns about SF IV - but the gameplay I see still seems challenging to master.

In other news, before moving I sold my PlayStation 3. I have to say that I do miss playing video games. I don't have a lot of time to play them but not being able to play, not even a couple of hours a week, bugs me slightly. I do have my PS Vita and PSP systems but they don't hold the same appeal. Plus, my eyes are already strained after staring at a computer screen the entire day. I don't want to squint my eyes during my downtime.

On that note: does anyone have suggestions on good and affordable HD televisions? What type (e.g., LCD), size, brand? I'd like to buy a quality TV with the PS3 I'm getting. (Actually, maybe I should wait until the PS4 is out before buying a PS3. The old system should definitely lower its price.)
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Oct 8th, 2013, 07:25am

Tekken 3 was the last Tekken I cared about. Tekken 4 was a major blow to the series' rep in the early days of PS2.

The first two Tekken games were incredible marketing pieces in Sony's arsenal. The first two were perfect ports -- not that it should have been difficult since System 11 arcade boards=Playstations (with some extra ram?) -- which was even more striking thanks to the Saturn's awful ports of games like Virtua Fighter and Daytona. This, of course, was a great example of how focused Sony's operation was on a single product launch, while Sega, in its arrogance, built a machine that was in no way equipped to keep with its state of the art arcade tech. A Playstation would have struggled with Daytona as well, but Sony made sure, through Namco, that their system scaled into arcade hardware and was advertised through it.

I always start thinking about Sega and their awful business practices as much as gameplay when I look back on the Tekken games. My mind was made up in favor of Sony after playing Toshinden immediately after the borked port of Virtua Fighter; for the five people that remember Toshinden, it's as a flash in the pan, but I do think it deserves a bit more credit as not only a graphical showcase but also as a look at what Sony was offering with the Playstation on gameplay. Crazy? Well, the number of digressions, yeah, I'll cop to that. But on the gameplay issue? Nah, I'll stick it out. I mean, Toshinden is a lacking fighter, without a doubt. Any idea of tournament play is laughable (now watch a link pop up to make me look like a moron).

That's true. Yet it misses how the game was important on a gameplay level. It felt *new* like nothing on Saturn did. Nothing. Virtua Fighter is a deeply respected series but it's also a more clearly defined game of bait and switch: a 2D rail fighter if ever there was one, with the polygonal look being a tech show and carrying through in the fighter's sloooowwww motions. Toshinden actually, to whatever limited extent, *moved* in 3D space, or at least gave the illusion of it. In 1995 it felt fantastic. And in 1995 it really was a great game.

OK. Back to Tekken (it felt like a phantom limb during..all that). 3 had a lot of appeal in the arcades, I remember that. It was a System 12 game so it didn't port perfectly, but the extras Namco included made up that difference. I went through everything as well, or at least made sure to unlock all the characters/endings. Not long after I found that the memory card was corrupted. angry

SSFIV is a fun game. I haven't played it enough -- and was never good enough at any of the games in the series -- to competently claim that it's a bastardization. But I still suspect it. Nearly everything feels like step back or into a safer realm, including the soundtrack. FADCs (I know) are argued as an improvement over the prior parrying system, but it's easy to see through that after putting it to the test: it's a simplified offensive system, rather than being a blending of offense and defense. As a gameplay model you can see the adherence to Alpha mechanics rather than the more complex parameters of III/Double Impact/Third Strike: Chain Combos, Alpha Counters (a testing ground for parrying, but incredibly limited by comparison).

I don't really know how to advise you on the tv front. Remember, we're closing in on incredible shopping days/deals with Black Friday and beyond. Very soon you'll be able to get more for your money.

Overstock and Newegg are decent sites to peruse, particularly the former if you're looking for a good price.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Oct 10th, 2013, 7:28pm

Bought the GTA V Bundle. Appropos, I've downloaded Tekken Revolution...haven't lost an online match. Even though I suck. Or is that confirmation that this game takes no skill? It's always possible pets and the limbless are playing, I suppose.

Adding to the tv bit. If you're just going to use the "tv" for gaming and are price conscious, maybe you should try an HDMI monitor. There are great prices on some 1080p monitors. An actual tv, just for gaming? Even the PS4 is missing 1080p targets. PS3/360 hit 720p, so you don't really have to target 1080p if it's only for them.

GTA V is a better commentary and satire than anything I've seen from Hollywood...I don't know about ever, but no great challenger, so far as broad cultural targets, comes to mind from the current zeitgeist. Blowing off the Little Eichmann (Zuckerberg/Jobs) of tech caricature was a highlight. The game targets Limousine Liberals as much as the Bible Thumping goy that Hollywood is on a jihad against. That is, it's a sardonic statement on many of the (would-be) gatekeepers, and the same people (betas, metrosexuals, feminazis) that never aim a critical eye at themselves in the media, even as the media is simply a mirror for them.

It's not the first, but it makes an interesting point about gaming's importance as art. It skewers things that film has no interest in touching out of self-interest and, thus, constructivism. That's what makes the whining -- particularly from "feminists" and concerned beta males throughout the media as usual, as one voice, without much of any alternative commentary (while often praising themselves in the same article for the "bravery" to speak out...media echo chambers and bravery do not mix) -- so prototypically solipsistic and ridiculous: the game is a antagonistic to any subject/caricature/group it touches. Yet the media is making it out to be uniquely misogynistic.

The who/whom of isms -- in-group, out-group -- and how the media inverts the reality of the haves and have nots while reporting on them. Would the media consider it 'professional', let alone moral, to have a White Supremacist report on Civil Rights Legislation? No, of course not. Yet this is exactly the type of self-interested reporting they actively promote for their own in-groups, with no alternative to be found.

Reminds of the backstory on Halo 2: they wanted you to sympathize and understand the alien point of view. Meanwhile, it's verboten to play as Nazis in World War 2 games. So aliens in a sci-fi action game must be humanized, but historical humans must absolutely be dehumanized in Call of Duty. And yet, you can still play as Stalin's Red Army -- from under a regime responsible for outrages like the Holodomor.

Media propaganda, within and without. In this case, as a starter, why is GTA V "shocking" or misanthropic compared to war simulators?

The map is an added bonus for me. It's captured so much of LA down to specific landmarks (the Observatory! Santa Monica Pier! The Chateau! Driving Olympic! Driving down the Walk!) in a way I haven't seen in other software. It is a bit disappointing that you can't enter the bars to look for accuracy...you could enter bars in GTA: SA.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Oct 25th, 2013, 06:02am

Yeah, Tekken Revolution sucks. At least if you take it seriously, at all. Huge handicaps are encouraged, which encourages button-mashers. Sadly, it often doesn't matter even if someone pumps up their offense by 100, you can still beat them.

Played Uncharted 3 for a couple hours. Blah blah, stellar, yada yada. It's a an impressive Graphics Narrative. It's not aiming all that high but for video games its seamless values between gameplay, character and story are impressive. And problematic. The contextual handholding and constant/immediate respawns make it something uncomfortably close to a very linear, mildly interactive story. This is the case moreso than what Kojima did with the balance between gameplay and narrative in MGS2, but at the same time the gameplay/story flow of Uncharted 3 helps it hide this or make it largely irrelevant to a mainstream audience.

Simply put, I feel like there's no way to fail. And that's on Hard. What the fuck does Easy look like?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Nov 4th, 2013, 07:38am



It's a very nice retrospective/fan service/commercial mix. Pop Art and Verite conflated. Much, much better than anything Sony is putting on television.

Microsoft's Xbox One commercials are also better than what Sony has put together with their dreadful, 30-second odes to hipsters. The Microsoft commercials make you take notice, while the Sony stuff looks bored and boring:


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 6th, 2013, 6:11pm

I have to say: that PlayStation flashback did bring back some amazing memories. I guess I'm not too impressed by how it's shot--it's not a trick shot any more, just a trick we've all seen used.


But why did they have to grow up as hipsters?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Nov 13th, 2013, 03:28am

Yeah, I'm doing message board posts as Drafts. Rock bottom.

Anyway, I guess I might as well try an improved argument here.

I like the camera work even though it's de rigueur, perhaps because it is: the concept driving the branding is Familiarity, so the 360 (XBox! Hm) coverage makes sense. It's also a clever visual statement on another level: the camera as literal expression of console cycles. It's deft.

It's style as substance, but what does it say about that substance? Sony's Branding is the PS4. The question is, what does the new Playstation offer that the old Playstation doesn't? I'm at a loss. And it looks like Sony is, too.

They're playing it extremely safe, likely because Microsoft has been doing so poorly. The question is how insular the factor is? Within the industry Sony has been destroying Microsoft, because Microsoft has been killing itself. But so what? The guy who wants a next-gen Madden and COD isn't likely to have a clue.

The best thing Sony has is the price. I'm not a fan of the Kinect sensor for a very particular reason, but look at Microsoft's Branding: they have "cool" (however slight the actual usage factor is) new integration with the X-1 that Sony doesn't have.

http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-one-dashboard-is-definitely-a-next-gen-improve-1460692147



On the other hand, if things are as Sony wants them to be -- as they were -- judging by that ad, then Sony has a the better price for the better base-console on power, that is also seemingly easier to design for then X-1. If the XBox was the sequel to Dreamcast, is the One the sequel to Saturn? Aside from all the ways it isn't, including the far superior integrated Set-Top Options and Microsoft's funding, of course.

As it is, I like Cerny:

http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/11/5093402/mark-cerny-interview-ps4-knack

Though, no one is Krazy Ken Kutaragi.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Nov 14th, 2013, 06:22am


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Nov 19th, 2013, 08:15am

The Design Studio Behind Xbox Reviews The PlayStation 4

Teague is known for designing Microsoft's original Xbox. Here, they critique Sony's PlayStation 4.


Even if you don't know the design consultancy Teague, you know their work--ranging from the original Polaroid camera to the interiors of almost every Boeing plane to date. They were also the firm Microsoft tapped to design their original Xbox, conceptualize controllers for the Xbox brand, and create the Xbox 360 racing wheel. Imagine our delight when they volunteered to apply their expertise in a critique of the Xbox's latest and greatest competitor, the PlayStation 4.

Sonys path to the PS4 reads much like any classic story arc.

Act I, PS1 upstaged its toy-like competitors by targeting a more tech-savvy and mature audience.

Act II, PS2 literally destroys its competition, by bringing guns to a knife fight and becoming the highest selling console platform of all time.

Act III, the point of conflictPS3 was used as a trojan horse to push Blu-ray and 3-D TV technology platforms, theoretically to bolster additional offerings of the Sony brand. However in doing this, Sony lost sight of its core gaming audience and Microsoft gleefully picked up the mantle as the villain in Sonys story. Sony did succeed in winning the HD format war--Blu-ray is the successor to DVD--but not without casualties, and its taken seven long years to restore gamers' faith in the PlayStation brand.

That brings us, potentially, to the final act. With cloud-based technologies promising a more invisible and integrated world, the PS4 ($399, available now) could be the last flesh-and-bone PlayStation console. So how well did Sony pull off the final act? Sony designed both a beautiful console and a much improved controller, but it's almost as if these two components were designed discretely, and they never combined to create a truly cohesive system.

The rest of it (aka the actual analysis):

http://www.fastcodesign.com/3021802/innovation-by-design/the-design-studio-behind-xbox-reviews-the-playstation-4
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Nov 27th, 2013, 09:08am

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7528/the-xbox-one-mini-review-hardware-analysis
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7546/chipworks-confirms-xbox-one-soc-has-14-cus
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7513/ps4-spec-update-audio-dsp-is-based-on-amds-trueaudio

Looking at what's happened going back to XBox in 01, moreso than Sony, it has consistently been Microsoft changing what the industry is and how hardware is built, both from a user and programming perspective.

The HDD and Ethernet of OG Xbox. The media content of 360. Now the Kinect Hub/attempt at ownership of the living room -- again and again it's Microsoft redefining what consoles are (apologies to Nintendo, in that the Wii was huge and, in typical fashion, they did absolutely nothing to leverage that through investing the huge profit margins in online infrastructure, Western Devs, or internal HD development; on that note, fuck Nintendo)-- while Sony follows the path.

That doesn't mean it's Good, of course. Live is (was) wonderful as a network. The Hard Drive and processing power of the first XBox at times appeared to be so far ahead of the PS2 it was laughable (all that for a quarter of the market share by 2006).

Kinect, the NSA Monster, is awful. But so are our Smartphones, PCs and any form of Google'ing, government satellites and cameras on every street corner. And how about nanytes?

Without Microsoft, for good or ill, I doubt media integration would be as polished and certainly the power/conflation structure of the chipsets as mini-pcs -- X86 -- would be a non-starter

It's arguable that the further Rise or Return of the Western Dev was largely the synergy between the Xbox/360 chipsets with PCs, where Westerners have always dominated.

Biggest threat remains Android, iOS and, now, Steambox. Only the latter is acceptable: if the other two wipe out consoles, games might as well be dead. Not that MS's attempts to pile on microtransactions is a good sign.

I always love the Anandtech teardowns. Burying the lede.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 29th, 2013, 12:26pm

on Oct 8th, 2013, 07:25am, Will wrote:
I don't really know how to advise you on the tv front. Remember, we're closing in on incredible shopping days/deals with Black Friday and beyond. Very soon you'll be able to get more for your money.
I did exactly this: today I went out and bought a television and gaming console. I bought a Philips 39" LED 1080p HDTV for only 270 Canadian dollars.

I scored a pretty cheap PS3 (indeed, not the PS4) console with that as well. For $200 I got a 250 GB PS3 Super Slim console with one Dual Shock 3 controller, 30-day PS Plus trial and, how very Canadian, NHL 14, which I'll keep in the seal and sell (I don't live in Canada long enough to like ice hockey). I bought a second Dual Shock3 controller for $30.

I've retrieved almost all of my save data through the backup/restore utility. Unfortunately, the Demon's Souls and Dark Souls saves are locked and can't be restored. That f'ing sucks because I put over a thousand hours into both games. (Yeah, I love those games. Don't judge me, please.)

All in all, I'm really content with these purchases. I can't wait to start gaming again.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Nov 30th, 2013, 09:50am

Got my PS4 yesterday. It's very sexy. Got it all up and running in under 10 mins. Got Ass Creed Black Flag and Killzone.

Only played about an hour and half of Killzone. My god is it pretty though

Mainly been playing Black Flag. Was really excited to play it and loving it so far. I now have my ship, so now story is out the window and it's pillaging time. I've already taken 5 or 6. I'm going to make Black Bark Roberts look like an amateur lol
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Nov 30th, 2013, 11:17am

From what I hear, the PS4 stays really quiet and really cool. there seems to be little heating, keeping the fan noise down.

I'd love to hear more experiences once you get them, Chaos. Have you streamed footage of yourself wanking off during Playroom before the game got banned by Twitch?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Dec 13th, 2013, 2:03pm

Quote:
Only played about an hour and half of Killzone. My god is it pretty though


Pretty but dumb?

Mercenary's AI isn't too bright (to put it mildly; tactical responses are rudimentary if not nonexistent) but the replay value is better than I expected. Multiple routes, stealth vs all-out assault and varied mission load-ins/parameters.

Yeah, I bought a Vita.

It's pathetic that it's been so thoroughly outsold by the hideous 3DS hardware (hey, look! PPI that is lower than a PSP's).

Great, great device, with some caveats. I don't agree with the assumption that it lacks software but gimping remote play for the PS3 is a real miss from a consumer standpoint -- yeah, obvious from Sony's, so the two don't cannibalize each other -- and as both a corporate and user model it's bizarre that they haven't immediately enabled PS2 emulation. One of the best back-catalogs in gaming history rotting away, while the Vita's sales do the same.

Why?

I was very tempted to install CFW but the community isn't there, like, at all. The thought of this device running Sega's Model 2 (maybe even Model 3) stuff was exciting...and that's all it's likely to remain, an exciting possibility. I'd have to crack both the Vita and the 3 to get remote play to truly work, and that appears to be all I'd get out of it, with the risk of being banned from PS+.

As bad as sales are here, Japan could save the device. I haven't looked at Europe's numbers -- Europe+Japan would be a life saver, particularly on the translation front.

It's also a nice incentive to get a PS4. Gaikai functionality could blow the roof off.

It already has enough software to justify the purchase. If it stagnates enough? I'll crack it. It's the biggest (only) bomb they've ever had, so this will be a test, but Sony has always been the best at supporting their hardware for the long haul. Hope hope hope.

I think I played Uncharted GA more than 3. Really liked it, though the touch functionality becomes asinine so far as rubbings (Killzone's mix was better). I've barely touched a DS or 3DS, but this is the right mix so far as touch gameplay: just enough to break things up, even if it's tautological, giving games that implement it a better pace than they'd have without it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Dec 27th, 2013, 04:21am

Ninja Gaiden Sigma (screw italics, I'm on a phone), oh, right, PLUS made me think about game design's arguable degradation rather than its graduation. Not because the game is bad but because it's both great -- yes flawed -- and the video game version of a Mohican: extinct on game play grounds.

What I said about Uncharted 3 -- that it wasn't overly ambitious -- is a point I'd double don on after going back to Itagaki's action standard. As a PRODUCTION, thus a series of set pieces, Uncharted is one of the best series in the industry. But that's also its biggest flaw as a game play model: it wants to grab people as an interactive tour rather than as a skill set challenge.

Compounded by the fact that it's nothing more than serial cliches. Instead of an answer to Tomb Raider, it's the video game Indiana Jones.

As a narrative argument, it feels unjustified. It's challenge is pared back because the series is conceptualized as scope over function on game play, yet the narrative applied is perfunctory nostalgia for George Lucas' nostalgia for 40s serials, Treasure of the Sierra Madre (if only! Max Payne 3 is the closest I've played) and a forgotten Charlton Heston movie.

It does make me feel interested in The Last of Us, because its narrative conceit is, at least, implied as more through tone.

But as design package? It comes across as less than the sum of its parts because it tries desperately to blur the edges at all: like so many games, it wants to be movie, ending up as an, at times, on-rail game that almost plays itself.

And yet, I like it.

There's something sad about the sanitized conceits that come with better technology: instead of pushing the mediums boundaries on interactivity, interactivity is lessened to make games closer to PS1/3DO cut scenes in real time. Exciting...

Both sad and ironic, then, that the same studio that created Crash Bandicoot -- the original game a somewhat challenging platformer updated for early 3D -- no longer wants players to fail. Can't risk them missing the next set piece that leads to the next cut scene. But Crash Bandicoot 2's auto variable difficulty hinted at this in 1997, so nostalgia isn't something I actively want to pursue. The good old days were bad, the question is how much worse are things today?

Gaiden also contrasts favorably with the Arkham games, so far as the baseline of combat (I doubt Arkham exists without its influence, or that they would in nearly the same way). The combat -- Ai, therein general aggression -- is of lesser quality in both Arkham games I've played contrasted to the "first" (hi, NES) Gaiden. In Arkham, characters opponents largely follow dim action movie cliches: line up, wait your turn. This really comes out when seguing into a choke hold or grapple: the other NPCs stand and watch as you take apart one inmate. Contrast that to Gaiden, where the opponents crowd and corner unrelentingly: if you don't find the proper weapon, technique and timing/execution you could be dead before you either get a handle on the situation or recover from your mistake.

It's not friendly to the user, but that push toward better techniques depending on opponents and environment makes it the better action game. It rewards --angles become sharper, the need to simply react, to keep moving, is ever-present, and openings are reminiscent of 1:1 fighting games in a gangbrawl context -- by demanding skill.

It's a laughably bad narrative but it's a great, great game. It doesn't have larger narrative concerns and it doesn't have to protect a license, instead it just wants to punish you if you don't read and react well enough to break it.

I liked all the games mentioned. But the industry is getting to the point where there's very little room for diversity, and challenging, intensive games are now a minority without a political action committee. Extinction awaits, at least for AAA games like Itagaki's NG.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jan 24th, 2014, 07:34am

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-12-13-why-xbox-failed-in-japan

Interesting article. Bit long. Jumping around is recommended.

It does strike me that as much as the Americans were culturally out of their depth, by the end of the article -- with the added gift of being here, now -- we can see that the xenophobia of the Japanese was their downfall in the industry. Mirror, mirror. The blinkered complaints about how Microsoft didn't cross ever 't' and dot every 'i' in a Japanese cultural context -- how much does "gaijin!" sound like ""shegetz!" -- plays out as an assumption of their own importance to the industry, one that was greatly overestimated.

We saw it with Sega, now we're seeing it with Nintendo: the inability to work as global companies, rather than Japanese-supremacist small businesses.

Microsoft was never going to win the Japanese. I don't automatically disagree with them: a nationalist and protectionist mindset is fine, but pretending that you can ignore the tastes of the two biggest markets in the world while remaining a global force is a ridiculous, disconnected strategy.

The funniest part is that, no matter their mistakes, it's been Microsoft (re)defining the industry. Killing XBox in Japan was an amazing success for the Japanese. But in so doing, they also tried to ignore it as wider market paradigm, directly leading to their loss of relevance in the rest of the world.

Consoles as set top boxes and online pivot points was the Microsoft Vision, now it's the reality for both major console makers. And the x86 is utterly Western, pushed by the XBox's chipset, a PC chipset; now it too is the industry standard, allowing the market takeover by Western devs in a way not seen since the early 80s.

Still, the question remains as to how successful it's actually been in Microsoft's Grand Scheme. If, they were looking to upend the market, in an odd way the XBox brand was far more disruptive than the Wii.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 10th, 2014, 09:22am

Been a while since my last update- I got a new computer and lost all my bookmarks, but that will change.

Anyways, I bought the original Xbox on day one for Halo and Oddworld, the Xbox 360 for Perfect Dark and promises of Halo 3.... and I bought a PS4 this time.

Microsoft seems like they quit giving a shit about exclusives that weren't Halo or Gears over the past few years, and frankly, Halo 4 and Gears 3/4 weren't good enough to make me want to invest into a new Xbox. On the other hand, it felt like Sony was just shitting out new ideas every other week with Journey, The Last of Us, Beyond, etc. I had pretty much made my choice after Microsoft's E3 2012. However, if Microsoft makes some good exclusives, Ill definitely pick up a One to play those games.

Anyways, I love my PS4. The UI is fast, installing games is a breeze, switching between apps and games takes little time, and the share feature is rad. Im very excited for Infamous and what other Sony first party titles come out, especially from Media Molecule and Naughty Dog.

Over the past few months Ive gone through:
Batman Arkham Origins
Tearaway
Super Mario 3D World
Bioshock Infinite
Saints Row IV
Metro Last Light
Killzone Shadow Fall
Remember Me
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Devil May Cry
The Last of Us
Grant Theft Auto V
Brothers

Of the bunch, I think I enjoyed Tearaway the most. What a happy game.

Arkham Origins is wayyy underrated. Although it isn't as good as AC or AA, I thought it was still fun on its own terms.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 10th, 2014, 09:31am

on Jan 24th, 2014, 07:34am, Will wrote:
Microsoft was never going to win the Japanese. I don't automatically disagree with them: a nationalist and protectionist mindset is fine, but pretending that you can ignore the tastes of the two biggest markets in the world while remaining a global force is a ridiculous, disconnected strategy.


Well isn't that kind of why the Xbox One reveal screwed them in the global marketplace? DRM fiasco aside, they really only showed off American appeal- TV functionality based off America cable companies, a tie in with the NFL, etc.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Feb 10th, 2014, 6:15pm

I've been playing the shit out of GTA online. Lots of great, mindless action - and even more fun that I get to take it all out on other people.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 11th, 2014, 2:10pm

I thought GTAV was good, but the rushed storyline really soured me on the experience. My reaction was, "I would've preferred you guys spent more time on getting the main missions right instead of giving us golf minigames."

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by snipe on Feb 11th, 2014, 3:32pm

To be honest, I've not even played the stand-alone game - just online. Ladyfriend got me Arkham Origins on the same day and I've not even opened it. Also got Young Justice (playable Nightwing) for Xmas and haven't opened it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 11th, 2014, 5:27pm

Arkham Origins is pretty good, and Im sure you'll dig it just for how they take on the whole "Arkham Batman Begins" thing. It doesn't break new ground or anything, so if you're expecting a Asylum to City evolution, you'll be disappointed. But on its own terms, it does a lot of stuff right. The combat has a faster pace to it, boss fights are way improved, and detective mode requires a bit more thinking. I found the story to be the best in the series, and the mixture of Asylum's fantasy with Nolan's realism was pretty cool. Seeing criminals freak out with "THE BAT IS REAL!??" and fighting corrupt cops made me have a small geekasm.

Also, PC graphics are the bestest for this game.

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 11th, 2014, 5:31pm

on Jan 22nd, 2007, 10:10pm, Clerk wrote:
Poor Playstation 3.... I have yet to hear of anyone who wants one to have one..... If Metal Gear Solid 4 actually goes to 360, Sony is FUCKED. cool


Hahaha, the early posts in this thread are the best. My, how foolish Clerk was in 2006. Little did he know that he would abandon the Xbox train for Sony.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Feb 13th, 2014, 07:34am

on Feb 10th, 2014, 09:31am, Clerk wrote:
Well isn't that kind of why the Xbox One reveal screwed them in the global marketplace? DRM fiasco aside, they really only showed off American appeal- TV functionality based off America cable companies, a tie in with the NFL, etc.


Sure.

At the same time, the American market is the biggest in the world, and largely responsible for Microsoft's success in the last generation. (also of note, is that while people appear to be offended by the American-focused reveal, they fail to notice that Microsoft's international marketing focused on British watching soccer/football, even in the US; you could certainly argue that they're Anglo-focused [however Soccer/Football is The World's Game], yet the market is huge and they have been dominating it)

Japan has been shrinking for more than a generation now.

Yet Nintendo's response is to double down, focusing completely on the home market while ignoring the West -- Europe, America, Australia or, just, the Anglosphere -- whether it be through content or hardware. They refuse to listen to Western third parties so far as online infrastructure, and they most certainly have no interest in deals similar to what they've done with Capcom over the years.

On top of that, they do nothing to open up the market for more mature content. The demographics they exclusively focus on -- Nintendorks, Japanophiles, children and pedophiles (did I already mention them?) -- is not where the big third parties are at. Why does this company, today, have far fewer Western studios in-house than they did in the early 00s?

They need third parties to fill holes for them in release schedules, as is the case with Sony and Microsoft. The difference is, they refuse to work with the West, where most third party support now takes place, or notice any trends in it.

Microsoft's play is to continue leveraging the XBox brand as iterative and integrative argument for their ecosystem. Always Online is far closer to a reality in the States than many other countries, and the fact that the it is so big and relatively homogenous makes it the ideal market to drive the brand. The problem with other markets is that mix: either lack of infrastructure or media, cultural and language differences that make, say, a continental-European launch much more difficult.

Nonetheless, Microsoft is pushing for the future moreso than Sony with their box. If it wins the US market it will have a healthy future, and can help the company push Metro through to more hands/heads as well as create a more integrated overall media setup. If it takes off here, the world is likely to follow -- from a branding standpoint, Microsoft's biggest concern should be whether it becomes synonymous with these gains.

My biggest issue with how they launched the system would be in regards to England. The issues with PAL output is a major oversight in an important market. Their best bet, at least early, is continued dominance of the Anglosphere.

on Feb 11th, 2014, 5:31pm, Clerk wrote:
Hahaha, the early posts in this thread are the best. My, how foolish Clerk was in 2006. Little did he know that he would abandon the Xbox train for Sony.


Things change.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Feb 14th, 2014, 07:45am

Microsoft's next Big Issue is likely whether they're integrated enough. While Playstation 4 is not shifting the goal posts as a hardware/UI/Media Hub argument, Playstation Now could leapfrog the entire hardware/branding issue, or at least be an important part of where both video games medium and content delivery+interaction are heading.

Next Gen TVs could be the real answer. Could. If a Samsung or even Apple cared to bother, they could create middling graphic performance with an integrated GPU -- something like iPad and/or, the typical, awful integrated graphics of the average PC/laptop.

Further out, PS Now as a content service would seem to undercut what Microsoft is trying; the question remains on delivery. But by doing this, Sony outmodes its own hardware; what's the real shelf life of a PS4 with this technology, assuming it works?

But what's to stop Apple or Amazon from doing it as well?

XBox One as a hardware argument is technically more impressive and forward-looking as an overall package. The problem for Microsoft is that it appears to be the fulfillment of a dream that was more relevant in 2001 -- blue oceans (no more) and lateral gains by Apple and Google in the tech sector have undone a large part of the idea of a digital hub.

It may fail. If it does, I think it's a portent for the entire dedicated hardware industry. The problem for both Sony and Microsoft is that their gaming divisions easily could become just two more Streaming Apps.

For Microsoft, I don't know what the point would be, unless they could sell Surface and Windows Phones through it. To become a subservient, relatively minor piece of Android or iOS doesn't currently fit the Devices and Services vision out of Redmond.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 16th, 2014, 2:07pm

on Feb 13th, 2014, 07:34am, Will wrote:
Yet Nintendo's response is to double down, focusing completely on the home market while ignoring the West -- Europe, America, Australia or, just, the Anglosphere -- whether it be through content or hardware. They refuse to listen to Western third parties so far as online infrastructure, and they most certainly have no interest in deals similar to what they've done with Capcom over the years.

On top of that, they do nothing to open up the market for more mature content. The demographics they exclusively focus on -- Nintendorks, Japanophiles, children and pedophiles (did I already mention them?) -- is not where the big third parties are at. Why does this company, today, have far fewer Western studios in-house than they did in the early 00s?

They need third parties to fill holes for them in release schedules, as is the case with Sony and Microsoft. The difference is, they refuse to work with the West, where most third party support now takes place, or notice any trends in it.


Shifting gears into this part- I am a big time Nintendo guy, I will buy whatever they put out just to play Nintendo games, because they are magic in digital form. I love Zelda, Mario, Wonderful 101, etc- theyre like the Pixar of gaming.

However, you are 1000000% correct about their issues. Nintendo is still operating like it's 1999, when you needed Nintendo to play the family targeted titles in order to baby sit your kids. Those days are dead. At least Nintendo in the 90s was able to put out a wide variety of content, and Rare really helped with that a ton. While waiting for the next Zelda, you could count on Rare to put out a Blast Corp or something. They had their own sports titles, shooters, fighting games, etc. Now, they seem to think that Mario Sports 5 will still sell consoles. (It's funny to me that they practically had the Goldeneye/Pefect Dark audience that would later move to CoD, and Nintendo went "WE DONT WANT THAT). It feels like how Disney was in the 1980s, where it just became the Mickey museum..

The Wii was a brilliant move, but their attempt to woo the casuals back with the Wii U was just silly. If you're going to do the tablet thing, at least open it up to everyone in terms of development- instead Ninty is releasing NES roms on a monthly basis. Ugh.

I feel like Nintendo is legitimately angry that they are back in the "gamer" market again, especially after how they acted when the Wii was successful with all the "we're better than the basement dweller" talk they made.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 16th, 2014, 2:14pm

With regards to your talk of services, I feel that Microsofts big mistake was catering the television stuff to an audience that is now fractured apart due to cell phones and tablets. From what Ive seen (keep in mind, I dont have Microsofts billion dollar research powers, so armchair economics time), families dont really sit together on the couch and watch TV together nightly anymore- a daughter will be on her tablet watching she wants to watch, the son will be playing Angry Birds on his phone, etc.

I think Sony's Playstation Now is forward thinking in terms of how its recognizing the splintering of audiences and the need to access content anywhere on everything, but I dont think playing a PS3 game on a Vita matters to very many people. This is why I think Amazon coming into the living room would throw a big wrench into Sony and Microsoft wanting to sell services- they have a better grasp at selling media to individual accounts that can be accessed across the board on all kinds of devices.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Feb 19th, 2014, 07:36am

on Feb 16th, 2014, 2:07pm, Clerk wrote:
Shifting gears into this part- I am a big time Nintendo guy, I will buy whatever they put out just to play Nintendo games, because they are magic in digital form. I love Zelda, Mario, Wonderful 101, etc- theyre like the Pixar of gaming.


It's facile, but I loved Nintendo probably as much as anyone. I bought every console they released through the GameCube. Everyone's probably played Wii at a boring party, and I thought it was a genius marketing sleight the minute I first saw it. But what is the Wii U? What the hell is this machine?

Another cliche, but only because I think it's true: Nintendo wants to be the Eastern Pixar, but they should be aiming to be the video game Disney. They need to expand and diversify. not as far as the Quality of Life/Nike stuff -- I know so little about what they're doing in that sector that I really have nothing to add -- but as far as their mainline portfolio.

Where they get in trouble is in the gimmickry -- of course, 'gimmick' is just a synonym for 'idea', but the problem is when they have ideas that aren't fleshed out, at all -- and zeitgeist. What is the 3DS? It's an attempt to cash-in on what Nintendo thought was going to be the next big fad. It exists because of the hype from Avatar and 3D TVs.

Same thing with Wii U. It's, yeah, a TV version of the DS. It's also a tablet response. A marketing bullet point and attempt at an exciting reveal. It's Nintendo at their worst (well, forget Virtual Boy, then): Apple acolytes making cheap knockoffs and selling them for premium prices. The trash toy company version of Apple.

Worse, the Big Idea is never, ever justified by the software. There may be great games for the Wii U, but there isn't one game that is a killer app; there's not one game that makes great, innovative use of the controller to a wide audience. The machine was built because they needed a gimmick, but only in marketing terms; they didn't need that gimmick for games, and can't seem to develop any software for it after the fact. Which, then, undermines any market(ing) they have for it.

The Wii U appeals to basically no one. No "hardcore" gamer is going to seek it out over what Microsoft and Sony have. And just looking at it would make a casual consumer run away faster than a guy who just saw Lena Dunham naked. That controller!

Likewise, their theories on software needs to change. I'm not arguing quality, mind you. But the company that used to aim for AAA experiences that truly graduated the entire medium, and grew the industry, appears to be gone.

3D World is utterly charming. Much like The Wind Waker. But one is a sequel to a 3DS game, the other a remake of a poorly received Zelda entry from 2003. Where are the Mario 64 levels of software? One can certainly argue that creating a game as revolutionary is impossible as things stand. Maybe. But Nintendo doesn't make games with the same amount of scope. Further, they don't even attempt to make software as visionary; this is another reason why their importance in the market is waning.

If a piece of software as big as Mario 64 were to hit, Nintendo would not have trouble moving the Wii U. But how can that happen when they refuse to attempt it?

There's something intrinsically wrong with the company. I think it's the Iwata(Myamoto) ethos of Superiority and Willful Ignorance. A company more suicidal than a kamikaze pilot and Sylvia Plath.

The Wii was an amazing product as market argument. It's brilliant. But you start to understand that it's the result of dumb luck rather than shrewd skill, when looking at Nintendo's moves after its release. They didn't protect the market, they didn't expand it and, likewise, they didn't attempt either for the company as a whole. With all the money they took in -- all the pure profit and the huge market value -- why on Earth did they not invest it by growing their Western reach and overall number of studios?

Rhetorical.

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However, you are 1000000% correct about their issues. Nintendo is still operating like it's 1999, when you needed Nintendo to play the family targeted titles in order to baby sit your kids. Those days are dead. At least Nintendo in the 90s was able to put out a wide variety of content, and Rare really helped with that a ton.


I can kind of understand Nintendo being outbid for Rare by Microsoft -- they poisoned the well with a huge offer, over market value -- but I can't understand why Nintendo did nothing to make up for the gaps that Rare left. Instead they compounded them: most of their Western studios were shut down during the GameCube era, or set adrift.

I've seen people attack Microsoft for destroying Rare. But that's kind of the point: I'm not happy that it happened, but no matter what they did or didn't do with the company and its assets after the buy, that buy was the whole point. They managed to drastically take away Nintendo's software diversity with the deal; it was a great strategic cost-sink for Microsoft.

Whatever the company was worth to Microsoft, it was probably worth more to Nintendo.

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While waiting for the next Zelda, you could count on Rare to put out a Blast Corp or something. They had their own sports titles, shooters, fighting games, etc. Now, they seem to think that Mario Sports 5 will still sell consoles. (It's funny to me that they practically had the Goldeneye/Pefect Dark audience that would later move to CoD, and Nintendo went "WE DONT WANT THAT). It feels like how Disney was in the 1980s, where it just became the Mickey museum..


I saw about 5 minutes of an old E3 video with Iwata, just before he took over. It's 2001, GameCube is a powerful piece of kit -- stronger than PS2 in most ways -- but you can still see the Nintendo of today in that video.

It's hard to know exactly where to place it: is it, looking back, a prescient moment or just redundant? The company was behind the times, and proud of it, then: the inability to really attack and understand online infrastructure, even as Microsoft was pushing it as hard as they could in their box (no Live for another year, but the hardware was ready from the start).

Sega was pushing online with Dreamcast -- even if it was dialup, online matches with NBA2K were pretty cool back then -- having started with Saturn. Even today, Nintendo's online offerings are archaic as a whole. And specific to their own software, almost nonexistent.

In the past, I'm pretty sure someone like Howard Lincoln would have handled E3. You can see how things are changing at Nintendo in the video: consolidation, and the destruction of NoA's autonomy. Now Iwata is on-stage, speaking broken English and telling the Western game industry that they have it all wrong.

Some of what he said about out of control budgets was absolutely true. It was obvious where this was going to end up. But it's also the first explanation of what Nintendo will become: a Japanese-focused (first, last) company that makes smaller games on low-tech home consoles. Consoles that ignore the industry's core demographic in almost every way.

With Iwata in charge, it's hard to say how much worth Rare would have had. At that point, any real Western presence was unwanted in the company, as it is today.

Even if Rare was pumping out incredible FPS's to appeal to the West, what worth would the games have when Nintendo would not invest in online infrastructure?

The argument could be made that Rare's output would influence the company. In that case, I think it was inevitable that they would have gone with or without Microsoft; Western studios making influential, Western-targeted software is not something that Iwata appears to want for the company.

You can sense the hubris, and the disdain in Nintendo's top men for the Western way of making software, and for the target audience. But the problem is that it's not really logical -- as successful as Wii was, it would not have hurt Nintendo to have top Western studios from within putting out software -- and it may not be sustainable.

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The Wii was a brilliant move, but their attempt to woo the casuals back with the Wii U was just silly. If you're going to do the tablet thing, at least open it up to everyone in terms of development- instead Ninty is releasing NES roms on a monthly basis. Ugh.


Succinct.

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I feel like Nintendo is legitimately angry that they are back in the "gamer" market again, especially after how they acted when the Wii was successful with all the "we're better than the basement dweller" talk they made.


As far as relevance, I don't know if they have a market.

The fact that they utterly abandoned the Wii is what I find most bizarre. The only thing that seems to remain is the name. Sure, smartphones and tablets have taken away a great deal of the demographics Nintendo drew in, but a real sequel to the Wii would still make more market sense than whatever the hell the Wii U is.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Feb 19th, 2014, 07:55am

on Feb 16th, 2014, 2:14pm, Clerk wrote:
With regards to your talk of services, I feel that Microsofts big mistake was catering the television stuff to an audience that is now fractured apart due to cell phones and tablets. From what Ive seen (keep in mind, I dont have Microsofts billion dollar research powers, so armchair economics time), families dont really sit together on the couch and watch TV together nightly anymore- a daughter will be on her tablet watching she wants to watch, the son will be playing Angry Birds on his phone, etc.


Both Microsoft and Sony are kind of archaic in the space. The market hasn't clearly been taken from them yet, but I feel like it's a matter of time.

The X-1 is a 2001 dream that became a reality in 2013.

Sony obsessed over using the PS3 as a Trojan Horse for BluRay last gen, only to have digital downloads tear away the market for proprietary domination.

Microsoft, perhaps more than Sony, dreams of the Set Top Box; if it were to work, then the machine becomes a gateway to nearly any app or service, with Microsoft as the gate keeper.

But with Apple and Google in charge, this is becoming an anachronistic nightmare: Xbox and Playstation become profitable apps within a larger eco system, when at least one of them was meant to exist in the opposite stricture. It's the world turned upside down for Microsoft.

Entertainment centers aren't completely done for, but the value proposition isn't what it was. $600 for an iPhone makes more sense than $500 for an Xbox to far too many people.

More than anything, they have got to get it subsidized. If the X-1 was $200 on-contract with a cable or satellite company -- basically the box -- Microsoft could still do real damage, not only in the video game space but as far as their larger aspirations.

You can see it's designed for it. Now they have to make the deals.

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I think Sony's Playstation Now is forward thinking in terms of how its recognizing the splintering of audiences and the need to access content anywhere on everything, but I dont think playing a PS3 game on a Vita matters to very many people.


Vita is niche as hell. A great device, but there isn't any saving it from smartphones.

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This is why I think Amazon coming into the living room would throw a big wrench into Sony and Microsoft wanting to sell services- they have a better grasp at selling media to individual accounts that can be accessed across the board on all kinds of devices.


That returns to at least one point: Amazon moves hardware through subsidization.

Neither Sony or Microsoft are willing to do that at this point without outside partners.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Feb 25th, 2014, 12:17am

Lots of games coming out this month, thank God I have a disposable income.

Here's what Ill get: South Park, Infamous, Metal Gear Solid V, Titanfall.

Anyone else biting on the other releases like Diablo III Expansion, Dark Souls 2, etc.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 1st, 2014, 4:11pm

I am getting Dark Souls II, Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII and final Fantasy X | X-2 HD (both this month because they both ship together. I don't mind as I am too busy to play lots anyway).

I am worried about Metal Gear Solid V It sounds like it has all the makings of a cheap, unfulfilling filler entry. Two hours of gameplay? A new entry on the horizon? Cheaper price than you'd expect of a AAA-title? Yeah, count me skeptic.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by dudelovebaby on Mar 5th, 2014, 05:34am



cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 5th, 2014, 1:48pm

on Mar 1st, 2014, 4:11pm, TheMidnighter wrote:
I am getting Dark Souls II, Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII and final Fantasy X | X-2 HD (both this month because they both ship together. I don't mind as I am too busy to play lots anyway).

I am worried about Metal Gear Solid V It sounds like it has all the makings of a cheap, unfulfilling filler entry. Two hours of gameplay? A new entry on the horizon? Cheaper price than you'd expect of a AAA-title? Yeah, count me skeptic.


From what I understand, it takes about 2 hours for the main story, but that only accounts for a small portion of the game. There's a ton of side missions to do as well. For $20, Ill bite. I'll drop $20 at the movies all the time for a 2 hour ordeal, so a game that could be 10 hour long is fine with me, especially Metal Gear.

Anyways, I got Thief & South Park. Thief on its own is an okay game, has very a convoluted design. You could tell they were going to originally make a Call of Duty: Thieving Edition type game, but fan backlash caused them to implement some of the older Thief features. As a result, you have a game that feels like a jack of all trades, master of none. For example, you have the small hallways from their original CoD mentality, but with enemy damage straight out of Thief 2. It doesn't quite work, part of me wouldve liked to have seen the developer's original title before the fan backlash (and I say that as a massive Thief fan).

Or... they couldve just... seen what made Thief so great and done that too....

South Park is legitimately great. The RPG mechanics and epic soundtrack would fit well in a fucking Final Fantasy game. Thats how great its designed. I've been laughing my ass off non-stop at the humor as well. Makes me wish there were more funny games out there, which is probably why Saints Row is now my favorite franchise.

Get South Park, skip Thief.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 16th, 2014, 7:56pm

With quite a few extensive games on the horizon, I can't justify paying full price for South Park: The Stick of Truth. I hear from all over the internet that the game is legitimately awesome--it's like experiencing a season of the show where you are the main character. That sounds sweet.

Unfortunately, my Dark Souls II pre-order is delayed. I get it on March 18 (release date: March 11). I get both FF X/X-2 HD and Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII on March 17 (February 11 and March 18 release dates, respectively). So that means I get three massive RPGs in two days. Yeah, I'll be busy for a while.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 18th, 2014, 12:32am

South Park is great, but I guarantee it'll be half price by summer.

Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes and Infamous this week. cheesy

I got Titanfall on PC, played that most of last week. It's a very fun game, but not the revolution that the media was touting it as. I do love how it's the anti-CoD- no more kill streaks, the inclusion of AI opponents lets everyone have fun, no more run & gun, etc. Sucks that the game has so much baggage due to the anger at Xbox & EA from the past year, as I feel that it's the definition of just a "pure fun" title.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 20th, 2014, 05:55am

I enjoy Dark Souls II at the moment. I play co-op with my brother, we're both exploring this new world and encountering tough bosses. It's fun.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 22nd, 2014, 1:03pm

I bought the first Dark Souls for two bucks on Amazon PCD, but I have not got around to it. I have heard good things.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Mar 28th, 2014, 06:06am

Played some licensed shovelware. Amazing Spikder-Man is a pretty boring mashup; there's the Arkham-like combat, which is relatively broken on in-game mechanics. The city is somewhat okay. That is, as long as you don't go to street level; there it feels lifeless (Broadway is soul-crushing). It looks decent with motion blur from the air. The best part is probably reenacting the last scene in Raimi's Spider-Man (down through the canyon, up to the flagpole; arguably better than the whole of the reboot).

I only managed to play midway through the third mission. Casually dull in the story segments.

The mechanics, combined with the open-world concept versus execution, equate(s) as perfect mediocrity. I may be overhyping it.

The problem with the open-world concept is both how lifeless the city is and how disconnected it is from the character; rather how disconnected the game is from Peter Parker. If Peter is not going to play any role beyond Spider-Man, conceptually I think the game should be fully mission-based.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 31st, 2014, 5:13pm

I gave up on one of the indoor missions, where I was having to use vents to take down a bunch of guys.

The swinging was pretty cool, but the "mid-air" web detracted from the cool camera angle.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 31st, 2014, 5:23pm

I'm still going through Dark Souls II. What an awesome game. Defeating the bosses and co-oping with my brother proves to be a lot of fun yet again. We're not looking anything up online, we're figuring out everything ourselves and it's a blast.

The times that I'm playing alone, I play Final Fantasy X HD. I still love this game even all those years later. I really don't see the flaws other project onto the game: the voice actors sound quirky but fine, the interplay between characters is solid and makes sense (especially knowing what's coming) and the music still stands up to this day.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Apr 2nd, 2014, 08:09am

on Mar 31st, 2014, 5:13pm, Clerk wrote:
I gave up on one of the indoor missions, where I was having to use vents to take down a bunch of guys.

The swinging was pretty cool, but the "mid-air" web detracted from the cool camera angle.


Wait. Are you saying the 3rd mission is just repeated over and over again? Well fuck that. The game was making me feel like I had low blood sugar it was so boring. I might as well stare at paint chips or play a F2P gardening sim.

1) sneak into facility. 2) crawl through vents, then find a ceiling. 3) have either a Stealth Room or a Melee Room; the latter feels floaty and broken, the former is nothing more than pressing-a-button-to-watch-the-same-animation-sequence-over-and-over (and over) 4) stilted cut-scene that feels like 2003.

Who's the more obvious chimp in this scenario? The designer or the player?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Apr 8th, 2014, 07:08am

Online play in Street Fighter X Tekken is a gutter-level lesson in sociology. So, the ranking system. Get a bunch of mindless wins against awful opponents; and there are a lot of them. Problem is it takes forever to rank up.

Then there are the assholes who disconnect right before the second K.O.

Perhaps matched to that, there are the guys who devote their lives to this game. I just played a 'B' rank player...the number he accumulated to achieve that rank was astounding. I got my ass kicked the first time, no surprise. Played again, gave him a fight in the second round...it was close enough that the fucker decided to run the clock.

Hypocrisy is thy name, so I disconnected. I don't really care about the losing, but if ever a mix of time-dump/devotion and the movement of a character avatar screamed "POS!" it was this guy. At the very least, fucking fight.

Yes, further hypocrisy; I could have as easily engaged him...he had the advantage, and was going to milk it for 30 straight seconds. A microcosm for these types of matches. Hypocritical or not I at least felt the need to give him the finger right back...though maybe all did was prove he got to me. How can you have a dick measuring contest over an online fighting game? And when you do, what's the difference between that and tucking it?

That gets to what I hate about High(er)-Level Play in SF: the utter boredom of playing footsie, looking for spacing (I mean *looking* for spacing; e.g. we both move away from each other, while 40 seconds runs off the clock, waiting for the other to make the first wrong move) and dealing with turtles. Ugh.

I don't have the patience for it. I do have the patience, obviously, to bitch about it on here. So...
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Apr 14th, 2014, 10:57pm

I am very excited for the new Smash Bros. It's so odd to see Nintendo actually make a title that appeals to both the regular and the hardcore gamer. The inclusion of For Glory mode is awesome, but weird considering their borderline hatred of the tournament scene for Smash Bros.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Apr 22nd, 2014, 09:00am

Been dabbling with OG XBox (and its Thompson DVD Drive embarassed). It's a standout piece of hardware, both in the moment and historically, defined by contradictions; a garish, brutish box that was like a tank (rather than a sports car) in the console space, its chassis looked more dated than either the PS2 or GC, with a never-ending sense of Mountain Dew and Slurpee tie-ins, yet from within that selfsame(?) standard of industrial design it was the most forward-looking console of that generation (one of the most prescient designs of any generation, rather) and from the start felt like an Elitist category in console gaming (a leap as far as tech across the board; let the bourgeoisie have their PS2s) . Arguably, it was a generation ahead of both its competition and, unfortunately, market realities.

Microsoft's ambitions, circa 2001, now dominate the industry: broadband, streaming services, seamless online multiplayer, hard drives and the overall domination of the industry by Western devs (largely accomplished by bringing over so many PC developers, and the synergy between console and PC gaming that has resulted). It was way ahead of its time, and though it was slaughtered in worldwide marketshare, its ethos -- its white paper -- now defines the industry.

In other words I played some games from the early 2000s.

Halo is still a very impressive Campaign experience; which is an indictment on the modern industry, as the the pacing, scope and A.1. shame most of the first person shooters being released today.

Halo 2 has withered. Local multiplayer can't save it from the lack of Live, and the Campaign fails as far as aesthetic, pacing and setpiece value compared to the first game. What made it magic is gone. You could say it's old and be right, but it's also so very modern. It's a game defined by the online experience, which isn't there...like a QB without arms. It's the past, present and, yeah, future: how many PS3 and 360 games are going to lose their feature sets with their servers?

Ninja Gaiden...well, it's on my Vita. I suppose that's blasphemy, since it's Sigma. Still. Might be the greatest 3D action game, so far as the mix of A.I. and fighting mechanics. ever released. Only on XBox. Is that irony or the truth? I never picked up Black; maybe that's the answer.

Panzer Dragoon Orta is the last gasp of Dreamcast era Sega, along with F-Zero GX. I love Zwei and the initial game, but this takes Sega's design philosophy in the genre to its apotheosis...for the only time in the series -- a series defined by its tonality, and its tacit assumption of games-as-art -- the visual beauty conflates with the aural. It matters that one game in the series has the technology to actuate the level design as a seamless experience. Also that Rez level. Playing it high made me wish I'd been around in the late-60s to drop acid while watching 2001 (I suppose I still could, but it wouldn't be the sixties...so what's the point?).

Dead or Alive 3 still looks great. DOA5 on Vita actually looks worse in almost every way. That's its own post.

Anyway. It (XB) got me thinking about Seamus Blackley, who got me thinking about Trespasser, which led me to this article which I only read five or six paragraphs of before cutting and pasting it here:

"One seldom hears the true story of what happened at the place where the world changed. How it began. What were the reasons? What were the costs?" -John Parker Hammond

This quote from Trespassers intro movie serves just as well to open the real story of a game development teams struggles to develop a breakthrough dinosaur game as it does to open the fictional story of Hammonds struggle to develop a biotechnological breakthrough and clone dinosaurs. The parallels between the Trespasser project and Hammonds cloning project were numerous: ambitious beginnings, years of arduous labor, and the eventual tragic ending. Hammonds diary, as related in the game itself, dwells on the past and never attempts to explain Hammonds future direction now that he has failed so grandly - this postmortem is intended to be much more forward-looking.

Trespasser was begun by two former employees of Looking Glass Technologies, Seamus Blackley and Austin Grossman. By the time the game was rolling, two more ex-Looking Glass employees would join the team, and our common background was instrumental in setting the direction for the project. Looking Glasss most distinguished products, Underworld I and II and System Shock, are games which in some ways are still ahead of their time, specifically in the areas of object-rich, physics-based environments and emergent gameplay.

Quake did not even ship until after coding on Trespasser had begun, and to the Trespasser team with its founding in Looking Glasss design-focused philosophy, it represented the stagnation of 3D games rather than the step forward it was proclaimed in the press. Quake did nothing to extend the basic first-person shooter game design standards of "find weapons and keys" which id had first created in Wolfenstein 3D, and replaced the fairly-consistent atmospheres of Wolfenstein 3D and Doom with a bizarre mishmash of medieval and science-fiction themes. Trespasser was intended to be a high-technology game where game design and world consistency came first.

The Jurassic Park license was inevitable from the start, for a couple reasons. The obvious reason was that Lost World was on its way and expected to be a gigantic hit, and standard Hollywood thinking dictates that all projected hits be exploited seven ways to Sunday. The less obvious reason was that Seamus had been working on a physically-simulated biped model originally intended for Terra Nova, and had been shopping it around to several movie animation groups working on dinosaurs before ending up at DreamWorks Interactive.

The pie-in-the-sky concept for Trespasser was an outdoor engine with no levels, a complete rigid-body physics simulation, and behaviorally-simulated and physics-modeled dinosaurs. The underlying design goal was to achieve a realistic feel through consistency of looks and behavior. Having an abandoned island setting was a useful way to exclude anything which did not seem possible to simulate, such as flexible solids like cloth and rope, wheeled vehicles, and the effects of burning, cutting, and digging.

The game would play from a first-person perspective, and you would experience the environment through a virtual body to avoid the "floating gun" feeling prevalent in the Wolfenstein breed of first person games. Combat would be less important than in a shooter, and dinosaurs would be much more dangerous than traditional first-person shooter enemies. The point of the game would be exploration and puzzle-solving, and when combat happened, it would more often involve frightening opponents away by inflicting pain than the merciless slaughter of every moving creature.

"Limited but rich" was a phrase which was used often early in Trespassers development. This phrase describes a game design philosophy consisting of choosing a reduced feature set, but putting more sophistication into each feature. Although solid-body physics based entirely on box-shaped solids might seem like only a rough approximation of the real world, the thinking was that a perfect simulation of solid boxes would be so much more flexible than the emulated physics of previous games that our gameplay would be deep and absorbing.


http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3339/postmortem_dreamworks_.php

Pages more at the link.

Which leads me back to the Halo: Combat Evolved irony: games aren't just getting prettier, they're getting dumber. Budgets get bigger and the need for mass appeal becomes a far bigger issue than ambitions in world-building.

When you get games as ambitious as Trespasser, they often end in complete disaster. Somehow it's disappointing that we see fewer of those, now.

Perhaps that's as big a legacy for XBox as Live: the rise/renaissance of the West also led to the obsession with AAA budgets or nothing.

Then again, it's not like Japan does a hell of a lot in the category of innovation. Rather, as their global reach has lessened, they've simply become dated and irrelevant in game design. Somehow even this post is about Nintendo.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on May 15th, 2014, 9:04pm

There's a group out there that's trying to mod Trespasser into living up to the original vision that the developers had. Can't wait to try it out.

Anyways, Kinect got dropped, so it looks like Im buying an Xbone as a graduation gift to me from me because I love me.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on May 20th, 2014, 06:15am

Xbox is a less interesting technology argument without Kinect. But instead of executing the vision Mattrick et al. almost executed the console -- the NSA tie-in marketing plan remains unbelievably tone-deaf. Of course there's the side-loaded irony -- we're all basically living in Minority Report's invasive advertising scheme vis a vis our smartphones. And we seem to think that's just fine. Timing and the right snake oil messiah make all the difference.

As far as exclusive IP as drivers, Microsoft is in decent shape. Depending on the collection's multiplayer, Halo may push me to buy one.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on May 23rd, 2014, 7:41pm

The Batman: Arkham Knight trailer left me unmoved so I won't get a PS4 for that. (I got my PS3 for Batman: Arkham Asylum.)



I have no idea why that trailer appears twice.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on May 27th, 2014, 6:14pm

on May 23rd, 2014, 7:41pm, TheMidnighter wrote:
The Batman: Arkham Knight trailer left me unmoved so I won't get a PS4 for that. (I got my PS3 for Batman: Arkham Asylum.)


It's a blockbuster. I was going to ask, rhetorically, what that implies...but is implication even allowed? There's Batman's OTT Giger/Bay nightmare of a car blowing a bunch of shit up.

I'd be happier with an expansion of the sneaking elements and a true introduction of Batman's detective skills. But who would care about that? How do you build a trailer around it?

PS4 is in a typical spot for first-year Sony hardware. The exceptions are PS-X and PSP. But PS4 is looking like the PS2 and PS3 -- all three, from my perspective, with a pretty rough opening 12 on software releases.

Sony's doing better at retail but, right now, I'm more excited about the One's lineup. Can excitement be relative? Because, if not, I'm pretty bored by both.

E3 will be interesting. The lead-in looks better for Microsoft this year on software; I just get the feeling that they'll have the better release list for the backend of this year.

It's a good thing that Xbox brand is poison in, what, 2/3rds of the world? Or SCE might be as bad off as Sony Corp. as a whole.

Hypocritically, or just personally, the Halo: MC Collection interests me. But the rest of these HD rereleases are boring the hell out of me. It's a question of time and budget: where' the effect from cause? Remember the Cerny argument; re: time to triangle being cut down to PS-X levels?

Yeah.

That was largely a pipe dream. Thinking about, team size and prep time vitiate most of that advantage, even if it exists. I mean (surely) it easier to program (than PS2/3), but as the projects continue to grow exponentially in scale, how much of that is being seen rather than swallowed? It's the argument of mitigation: it's as bad as ever, maybe a bit worse, but it could be so much more awful.

Was Sony surprised by the PS4's success? Were third parties? Most are hedging their bets, which is arguably why so many releases have felt underwhelming: too much cross-gen development. I've been as bored by the technological leap this gen as I was when the 360 released.

The idea of a surprise hit -- and I'm not talking shoestring buget indies -- seems less likely all the time. Does anyone believe that the PS4 or X1 will have a GTA III, ala PS2, this year? A blockbuster is one thing, but a surprise blockbuster? Without midtier studios it seems like fait accompli: the line between profit forecasts, hitting them or missing them, period.

What would a breakout title look like? The market is becoming more caste-like than the film industry. What happened to the competent 3D action game for $25 million?

Which is why we keep getting franchise entries and HD remakes. And here I am, getting excited about one of them. Meh.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jun 11th, 2014, 07:53am

I liked MS's conference. I liked Sony's. I don't know which was better.

I *love* how SCEA has never acknowledged Vita on-stage since its launch. Yeah, the Vita's main reason to exist has, marginally, proven out -- the Japanese market -- and we're left with scraps. I get that as far as marketing on tv, but why can't this over-hyped, over-powered handheld get a couple minutes at an E3 show? Why can't it get one or two original western games from Sony per year?

That's too much? That's pathetic. Really. I say that as someone who expected the device's imminent death when I bought it. Water's wet, you know? Vita would be the ultimate example of "truth" in advertising, except it never had any.

What about a Minecraft bundle?

To top off the bitching, or make it more rounded, the opening of Microsoft's conference almost made me puke before passing out. I really don't like Call of Duty. I'm so sick of these set-piece games -- in other words, The Narrative. Hardly any interactivity compounded by drone A.I.

It looked nice. The urban environment was decent if derivative. But it's a just-barely-interactive showpiece. How depressing to again note that as these games look exponentially better they have gameplay that is less rewarding and complex than Galaga.

So, it was a bad start. (I'd say the same things about The Order; oh, guess I did)

Go make a damned film if that's what you dream about. Games should be aiming for something other than scripting that Akiva Goldsman would -- rightfully -- laugh at. What does it say about this industry that its main talent pool seems to be film school rejects or cultural retards? If you can't see how much more is possible through A.I. and environmental interaction, you're an idiot. Worst of all, you're typical for this industry.

Then there's this: Ori was more evocative and thus adept as narrative-construct than anything in the overblown trailers mentioned. All without a single line of dialogue.

I also liked Entwined. Rez meets Brothers and, probably, a few dozen dual-stick arcade shooters I never played.

Bloodborne was another in the long line of non-gameplay trailers. I have a lot more interest in it than I do The Order, even though they tread on bizarrely similar ground..

Sunset Overdrive could sell an Xbox 1. It could sell one to me. Jet Set Radio meets the TPS/TPA. Taking the piss out of third-person shooters so far as scale (color!)-- tonal and interactive -- looks like it could be a big leap. I loved the trailer and the gameplay.

Both had the same message: kill the cover shooter. Not a bad idea at all.

I suppose you could call Halo a cover shooter. You could also just call it an FPS. But no. It's Halo. Halo CE-4 all running at 1080p/60? 100 multiplayer maps? $60?!!

I would say this makes the other remasters look pathetic, but most of them looked that way before this showed up.

Scalebound...another trailer. First thought was "DMC4".

Phantom Dust. As awesome as it is, the response to it was about as tepid as the reveal of a $600 indie. It's a nice gesture on Microsoft's part that will only resonate with people who had OG Xbox's. I'd be very happy if X-1 could be like that in general...

It's a remaster. But it's a remaster of a game from the early 2000s. That's a bit more justifiable, and ambiguous, than remasters of games from 2013.

LBP3 was the most charming demo of either conference. And now Nintendo's ripping it off with Mario Maker. But what's Project Spark? Minecraft meets LBP. Then again, Doom was doing this in 1996.

Microsoft did really well with software that interested me. But Sony now has the multiplat advantage...Xbox One can never be the Original Xbox confirmed. sad

Or just upgrade the PC. Then buy another PC within the next 2-3 years. But that's what's hilarious about the current generation: both consoles are PCs from the last 5 years and, compounded, 90% (exaggeration..?) of their software is cross-gen. It's literally the PC gaming scene 5 years late (minus mods...which is, what, more than half the point?) -- long story short, a bunch of higher resolution PS3 games with better effects. I guess we have Microsoft to thank...blame...thank...for this.


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Jul 5th, 2014, 07:42am

I've spent a long time lamenting the region locking of the WiiU due to the fact that Scribblenauts: Unmasked remains unreleased in the UK. Fuck knows why, no excuse is good enough. Supposedly it's something to do with not releasing it until it has been fully translated into all languages, again, no excuse is good enough considering we could happily just have the US version, maybe with a few minor language tweaks into England English.

What surprised me is that the game has been out in Australia all along! So import it I did. I've just spent my first hour with it. So far so good, except for it seems it isn't quite as hardcore as it was said to be. Every website that covered it said how they had included nearly every DC character in history. But without even trying to be obscure, these are the ones I've discovered not in the game so far:

Simon Dark
Lehah / Biis
Lilhy
Kathy Kane / Ba-Woman (Kate Batwoman is there)
Betty Kane / Bat-Girl (Bette Kane Flamebird is there)
Flamingo (strange because Pyg is there)
Thomas Wayne Jr / Black Glove (CORRECTION - Is there as Simon Hurt)
James Gordon Jr
Nyssa Al Ghul
Holly Robinson (Come on, the girl was bloody Catwoman)
Bridget Clancy
Amygdala
Peyton Riley Ventriloquist
Ted from Tenses (Ok that is obscure, but articles said they had random one panel characters from the 1950s so Ted is less obscure than that!)

Ones that are more limited that expected:
Nightwing (Only Reboot 1st red costume, although your character can unlock Reboot 2nd to wear)
Supergirl (Reboot only)

I might edit in more later. Overall my disappointment is small, I never expected everything. But articles led me to believe there was more. Any game that gives me both Stephanie Brown Batgirl AND Robin deserves praise though. cheesy
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jul 22nd, 2014, 11:12am

What's Scribblenauts? tongue
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Jul 25th, 2014, 09:59am

on Jul 22nd, 2014, 11:12am, Will wrote:
What's Scribblenauts? tongue



Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jul 25th, 2014, 10:39am

So it's Typing of the Dead meets Little Big Planet. I was going to mention Oregon Trail (did that have typing?), but then I remembered that I can't remember much of anything about it other than playing it on an ancient, gross computer to try and overcome the doldrums of detention.

But can't any modern game improve on mid-'90s PC games in artificial intelligence? How about improving on the average SNES game? It doesn't matter what games look like -- rather, that's all that matters because -- they are consistently as weak on intelligence as games running on Commodores. That's where games could be, should be, the most exciting, but instead we get presentation as the catch-all -- either filmic wannabe efforts or indies that rely on 8-bit nostalgia.

I suppose the specific positive is that the game looks more alive than Arkham Origins. Wait. Is that a positive?

Quote:
Ted from Tenses (Ok that is obscure, but articles said they had random one panel characters from the 1950s so Ted is less obscure than that!)


Five people like Tenses. Maybe. Two of them are on this board.

Grant Morrison is about the only force that could change that.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Sep 5th, 2014, 10:35am

Been mainly playing Civ 5 BWN and Skyrim as got it in steam sale

Skrim is pretty awesome. Have to run it in Windowed mode or it stutters like crazy, but not that big a deal. Got a few mods. One to make better looking females, one where potions way fuck all and lock pick pro

Got me smithing to 100 and close to max on alchemy and enchanting too. When all maxed i'll make some hardcore armour and weapons

Have a stealthish character. Can one shot kill most with my dragon bow. Picked up that Mjoll the lioness (or MoJo as i call her). She's i learned marked as essential so can;t die, which is nice....though with the good comes the bad as she won't shut her fucking mouth. Also she's a fussy bitch. Made a daedric bow and gave it to her, but that want good enough for her. Only would use a dragon biw


Very much enjoying it though
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Sep 26th, 2014, 6:17pm

In the past, I have been more active. I have some updates.

1) I've bought a couple of games on the PlayStation Store with the sale that is going on: Braid, Proteus, Valiant Hearts, Rogue Legacy, Munch's Oddysee HD and SteamWorld Dig. I look forward to playing these games as most of them come recommended to me by a friend.

2) I have started playing my first MMORPG (I don't count my 45 minute flirt with DC Universe Online): Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. I have owned this game for a year and only now started playing it. Last year, I was in the middle of a move and since then I have never really had/taken the time to play it. I finally did it and I have to say I rather enjoy the game.

3) I bought a capture card and have experimented capturing my gameplay and live streaming it. It has been a lot of fun to play a video game and to talk in the chat with people that like the game as well.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Sep 30th, 2014, 07:25am

I liked Munch's Oddysee (did I spell it wrong to make it right?) a lot. But that's a memory from 2001, so...well tell us what you think. I doubt it's aged badly. Stranger's Wrath is an interesting hybrid of a TPA/FPS in the Oddworld universe.

I bought a bunch of Platinum games...Vanquish, Bayonetta (360 version; PS3 version is supposed to be the worst copy since the Boys From Brazil), Metal Gear Rising. They're everything that Devil May Cry wishes it was; which makes perfect sense and no sense simultaneously, considering the pedigree.

Vita is dead, was dead...long live Vita (is that "long live life"?!). I'm gonna hack it.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Sep 30th, 2014, 7:32pm

I've started with Valiant Hearts: The Great /war and thusfar the game appeals to me. The music sounds especially amazing.

I have owned MG Rising: Revengeance for quite a while now--someone did not want the game and gave it to me--but I have yet to play it. Let me know how you like it. Does the Devil May Cry style fit with the Metal Gear Solid universe?

I did not know the PS Vita was hackable.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Oct 2nd, 2014, 05:38am

Revengeance is more free-form than the classic DMC games. You can manipulate the camera on the fly which makes it feel closer to Itagaki's Ninja Gaiden. The ability to parry also makes it more free flowing, fast, frantic-but-technical whereas the elements in DMC tend to betray the series roots within/from Resident Evil: combat tends to feel slower, walled off, claustrophobic.

I haven't played much of Rising but it's frenetic in such a way that it conflates its setpieces/spectacle superbly with the gameplay.

Vita. Yeah, Vita. It's hackable into the PSP kernel, which is somewhat of an improvement: dual analog for PS1 games, then, and, I'd guess, the ability to emulate stuff like Third Strike. Just last week there was a tease about them being "close" to a full hack.

The idea of Dreamcast games on Vita is appealing. We can do it on most phones right now, sure, but I'd prefer to run the stuff off Vita rather than snapping a controller on a phone. I'd love to see what speed a development community could get out of a PS2 emulator.

There are still games on Vita I plan on buying, and I think it's great. At the same time, it's such a depressing disaster compared to the PSP. Imagine Vita running a new GTA, MGS, Tekken, etc. Just give me a 3rd Bday sequel, dammit!

Instead we get to hear from company men like Yoshida about how iOS ports are "still games". From the promise of PS3 games on the go to Fruit Ninja, what's the difference?

Fucker.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Oct 6th, 2014, 1:42pm

Got Shadow of Mordor. Even though you are just killing orcs non stop, it's so much fun and becomes even more so once you get some more upgrades. I can really fuck them up now. Form some reason i also got two DLC codes, even though just bought it in store....which was nice as the dark ranger outfit looks boss
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Nov 15th, 2014, 10:05pm

My gaming list is ungodly large right now.

So I bought an Xbone, and ended up getting a Kinect for pennies off of CL for curiosity. I have to say, even though the motion sucks, the voice controls are pretty nice. Ill be folding laundry and controlling Netflix like the lazy American I am.

So Xbox One exclusive wise:

Forza 5 - I never cared for realistic racers. Tapping your brakes to make a basic turn? Nah give me Cruisin or Mario Kart any day. But Forza uses the rumble in the triggers for pedal feedback, and now I actually feel like Im in control of those simulator turns. It's hard to play driving games on Playstation after that.

Dead Rising 3- It's okay. I found the controls to feel a little off, but the removal of the time limit helps my enjoyment factor (I know that's blasphemy to hardcore DR fans).

Ryse- Graphics showcase, nothing more. Basically a 5/10 game.

Sunset Overdrive- Fuck. Yes. This fucking game. When they showed the gameplay at E3, I thought it was mega staged and that the game itself wouldn't be as seemless and fun. I was wrong. Basically Fun: The Game. Mirrors Edge meets Jet Set Radio plus guns. Havnt been able to put it down.

Also, Bayonetta 2 is amazing. I never was into the Devil May Cry games, but after Metal Gear Rising nanomachined all over my face I decided to check out the history of kuhrazy. Although easier than most of those types of games, Bayonetta 2 is at the top in terms of variety and fun factor.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Dec 11th, 2014, 07:43am

on Nov 15th, 2014, 10:05pm, Clerk wrote:
Sunset Overdrive- Fuck. Yes. This fucking game. When they showed the gameplay at E3, I thought it was mega staged and that the game itself wouldn't be as seemless and fun. I was wrong. Basically Fun: The Game. Mirrors Edge meets Jet Set Radio plus guns. Havnt been able to put it down.


I also get Super Mario Sunshine vibes from it. Is it a remaster? tongue

Quote:
Also, Bayonetta 2 is amazing. I never was into the Devil May Cry games, but after Metal Gear Rising nanomachined all over my face I decided to check out the history of kuhrazy. Although easier than most of those types of games, Bayonetta 2 is at the top in terms of variety and fun factor.


I'm miserable at the DMC games. It's probably extreme apathy -- the enemy A.I. is shit, I hate how cramped stages tend to feel, and Dante just...feels floaty, like he's underwater. And I'm miserable at Bayonetta. But I actually like Bayonetta, so I guess it isn't apathy. I just suck at these games.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Dec 11th, 2014, 09:36am

I saw a great PS4-bundle deal and persuaded myself it was the best deal I would find before Bloodborne, The Witcher III, Final Fantasy XV, Final Fantasy Type-0, Batman: Arkham Knight and hopefully more good games came out.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Dec 12th, 2014, 12:14pm

I really hope The Order bombs. It wont of course. The game looks daft. Like a transparent mire. It's got a future-Victorian aesthetic that makes me think of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and "gameplay" that is nothing more than feint for some hack's deluded need to make a film...out of a videogame.

The game looks like it could be played by a chimp. Right after that chimp gets done jerking off, throwing shit and playing a Facebook garden simulator.

Who would have guessed that Dragon's Lair would still be promoted as "the future" thirty(?!!) years later?

Hopefully VR kills QTEs, braindead A.I. and over-scripted narrative adventures from failed film students.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Dec 19th, 2014, 08:51am

Argh, I don't know where to place this. I went with video games because it starts with Lego Batman 3 but it continues into continuity, retcons, current DC lore, the abundance/density of comics, and how the movies don't embrace The Weird of the comics.

I'm curious what you guys think of Game Theory's video. I don't watch his stuff religiously but he had a nice video about Chrono Trigger and the Bible a while back.


Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Dec 26th, 2014, 5:08pm

In many ways post-Crisis was an attempt to cull the "weird" from DC. The last decade has almost completely turned against that thinking, with Geoff Johns' nostalgic neoteny becoming company mindset. The other portion of that was Grant Morrison's positive postmodern deconstruction of the universe, pivoting off Batman.

I went through a lot of his work a year ago on Batman. It's interesting how subversive the work is, centering as it does -- I'd argue -- on Batman as a Nazi symbol and, by extension, either the "true" Superman or the anti-. All this works through, unsurprisingly, both the ridiculous pre-Crisis continuity and the occult; my takeaway, then, from Morrison's work was of Bruce Wayne as a crypto-Jew/WASP conflation (The Return of Bruce Wayne has fun with this) and Batman as this great bastardized pulp character, freely stealing from many archetypes (again, the meta/internal nature of Return of Bruce Wayne).

I wrote entirely too much on the subject, then threw it aside because I was too far from finishing.

In a distilled sense, Morrison remade or "discovered" the true nature and history of Batman. Working off the sun god mythology that is omnipresent in our culture, but best known in DC's Universe through Superman. He posits Batman as a subversion or dark mirror of the sun god, imagining him as the Black Sun God (largely known as a/THE Nazi occult symbol.). It's rather fascinating. Maybe Morrison's Batman is really a sequel to The New Adventures of Hitler?

I didn't watch the video. These Youtube deconstructions always kind of ick me out. Maybe I'll check it out later. I do think the image is on-point, at least if we take it to mean that the two flagship characters are coming largely from the same mythologies/archetypes/occult symbols.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jan 4th, 2015, 4:39pm

Over Christmas I was back in the Netherlands. I had ordered a copy of Batman: Arkham Origins because I heard it had great Mr. Freeze DLC. I take the game home to Canada and find out it's an Asian (region 3) copy. Since I have a European PSN account, the European DLC available to me for purchase will never work on it.

What the heck? I feel misled and the shop had better rectify this. It pisses me off.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Will on Jan 21st, 2015, 04:20am

DLC is garbage. We went from free Hurricane Packs on Xbox to "season passes" that cost $20. Then there are pre-order bonuses that make games into Barbie Dream Houses. The joke is, wait six months to a year and you'll be able to buy the GOTY Edition for half price with all the content that was supposed to make you buy early @$80.

Though Sony/MS are ostensibly region-free now, they certainly screw people through the networks and DLC. But that's Wii U is here for: to remind the few of us that know it exists, and what it is, how much worse things could be with Sony and Microsoft.

I picked up Yakuza 3 last year (?!) and the advertised DLC was outdated by two years. Why does DLC outdate? Because the given publisher wants to completely frontload sales. When a game drops in price after it bombs/has been on store shelves a half-year, their incentive switches from selling to aversion therapy; sometimes Pavlov's Dog needs to be punished in order to learn a new trick. There will never be a GOTY Edition of Yakuza 3 because its, well, Yakuza 3. So they packaged it with a killswitch. At least it was packaged.

Xbox ushered in, mostly, positives from the PC world: hard drive, online play, and incipient DLC. PS360 brought the negatives: broken games "fixed" through patches, and the aforementioned season passes, pre-order DLC and coupon codes that have the shelf life of a grenade with a pulled pin (there's an Xbox 360 RROD tie-in).

Went from the conflation of DLC/patches at no charge to...well, let's skip ahead. PS Now isn't quite now...but it will be. Everything will be less-than-DLC...that you rent...I mean stream. Microsoft was so inept that the consumer figured out what they were up to (what do expect from the company that was started by Bill "Golden Rice" Gates?). Sony is quietly implementing a system that will, hopefully (from their perspective) create the same outcome.

We now have dumbed-down-PCs-as-consoles. Expansion packs and broken retail releases would be okay -- some '90s to break up the monoculture's self-reverence within the inevitable, ongoing and already tired '80s revival -- if only the Live/PSN membership came with the ability to mod any game on the console that was network enabled. But that would benefit the consumer, so what the fuck am I thinking?

Speaking of which, did you buy DriveClub yet?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jan 22nd, 2015, 10:55pm

Driveclub was a "fuck it, I have money and no time, so I need to buy something" purchase for $30 during the holidays. Honestly it's not that bad if you want a graphical showcase, as it's one of the best looking games Ive ever seen. Gameplay is nothing special... it's racing... good looking racing. Not bad, but not mind blowing. Basically Sony's answer to Forza while attempting to keep the class of Gran Turismo. But I have yet to do any of the actual Driveclub stuff, Im just playing through single races.

If you get one racing game that isn't Mario Kart 8, get Forza Horizon 2 instead.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Jan 22nd, 2015, 10:58pm

Alright so. I beat Bayonetta 2 the other night. While I loved the game overall, I found Metal Gear Rising to be more memorable. Bayonetta 2 seemed like someone gave Platinum a budget to make a game that is more than 4 hours long, so everyone gave it 10's for keeping the momentum going. However, I could describe to you all the bosses from MGR years after I played it whereas I hardly remember any of the fights from Bayonetta 2 already. Great game though, worth at least one play through.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 3rd, 2015, 12:15pm

I've played inFamous: First Light, Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty (remake of PSone's Abe's Oddysee), Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning, and I started Styx: Master of Shadows yesterday evening.

Styx kind of disappointed in the first hour of playing. Artificial intelligence of your enemies seems pretty crappy. Think: enemies bumping and walking into each other when they're alerted to your presence. Jumping and climbing seems more difficult to execute without falling than I'd hoped to as well.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Clerk on Mar 21st, 2015, 9:17pm

I blazed through Injustice today- what a great advertisement to not get me to buy Mortal Kombat X. Played like more MK9 which is still solid gameplay, but graphically looked like a PS2 game.

Worth the free play through on PS+ though.

Then I beat Transistor, which was phenomenal. Those graphics, that soundtrack.

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Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 22nd, 2015, 12:12am

I need to get on Transistor. I started, then didn't have time any more. The atmosphere was tangible. The voice-over set the mood perfectly.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 25th, 2015, 06:06am

I bought Bloodborne. I was going to wait but then I saw what scores it got and I couldn't wait any more. The flesh is weak.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 13th, 2015, 06:41am

I beat the game. Bloodborne is the coolest game I've played this year and the first game that made me start up my PS4 exclusively since it came out.

Last night I tried my hand at South Park: The Stick of Truth and already like it a lot. So far, it has great humour.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Apr 18th, 2015, 08:14am

I started playing old republic again a few months ago. Got the expansions too. Having fun with my new Sith assassin.

Only other thing i've really been playing is civ 5 bnw

Saw the Battlefront trailer. Meh till see actual game play and not on some super pc either
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 15th, 2015, 1:42pm

Anyone watching E3? Dark Souls III has my attention and augmented reality Minecaft looked like the future. Minecraft doesn't interest me, though.

I'll get Fallout 4 when the GOTY complete edition is out. That Rare Collection featuring Conker's Bad Fur Day is the most alluring thing on the Xbox One so far, for me.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jun 16th, 2015, 08:30am

So Sony had the first fan fiction conference lol

The Last Guardin
Finaly Fantasy 7 remake
Shenmue 3

That was absolutely Insane

They could've just shown the Last Guardian and then said "good night" and i would have been fine. I nealy tearded up watching that. So, so beautiful

Horizon looked incredible. Looking forward to hearing more about that

No Mans Sky. Uh, yeah the scope of that games is just incredible, so much so i can't imagine that they can even do it

Battlefront Looked fantastic, too fantastic. I still don't believe them that that is running on PS4

And the cherry on top to end with Uncharted 4

I seriously doubt this conference will ever be topped

Kinda surpsised Half Life 3 didn't show up as well lol
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Jun 17th, 2015, 09:39am

As with every year I have followed it all. Personally I am extremely disappointed.

My issue with the gaming industry is that I have been hardcore gaming since the Atari ST. Every generation meant new power which brought new experiences.

For me the most perfect balance of creativity and power was on the GameCube. So many games on that system tried completely new ideas that had never been done before. The boost in power with the 360 generation certainly started off well, but by about 2009 things started to stagnate. Many 'new' games didn't give me any new experiences I hadn't already played in previous games. A great example came a year later, Alan Wake. A great game, yes, but I would have enjoyed it a lot more if it had come out a few years earlier. Gameplay wise is was generic and tired. The Uncharted series I cannot understand the adoration for, it bores me to tears. From a scientific standpoint it is a very well made game. From a pure fun standpoint, I've done it all time and time again in older games, there is nothing new for me there.

Creativity has been at a low point for a number of years. Most games just fit existing moulds, maybe with a tweak or two, but nothing revolutionary. I see very little new ideas.

These days I would rather play a less than perfect game that tries new ideas and gives me new experiences, rather than a scientifically well made regurgitation with no new creativity. Recently I have been having a lot of fun with Splatoon. As someone thoroughly burned out with online military shooters, this was wonderful. Totally different approach to gameplay with the painting the environment etc - I thought the game would suck, I was totally wrong there. It is very simple, but it is new, I like that.

So yeah, E3 hasn't given me anything *new* that excites me.
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Games on my radar that had coverage:

The Last Guardian can't possibly live up to ten years of expectation, but I did truly love Shadow Of The Colossus, always was going to be a guaranteed purchase.

Mirror's Edge 2 concerns me that it is open world. The more linear levels of the original meant it was streamlined, focussed, fast paced, and very varied. Mirror's Edge and Condemned were two 360 games I loved for turning FPS on its head by taking out the guns and doing something new and fun.

Metroid Prime & Zelda 3DS Spin-Off Titles were all Nintendo had to offer me when it comes to new announcements, pretty disappointing. I already had pre-order on Yoshi, which looks cute, but nothing revolutionary. Very disappointed with Nintendo, who this generation with the Wii U have been my last bastion of innovation.

Dishonored 2 - Loved the first game, hope this brings some new ideas.

Tomb Raider 2 - Two decades later, one of those series I now buy out of obligation rather than excitement. None have lived up to the 1996 original. The previous reboot game was a bore to me. A well made piece of soulless regurgitated ideas, seen it all before.

Rare Replay - I would genuinely rather replay an old game I previously loved than play a 'new' game with no new ideas. Conker's Bad Fur Day here I come, loved you on the N64, gave up with the poor censored Xbox port, N64 emulation was too unstable for me to get far in on my Samsung tablet. Without getting a new 64, never thought I'd get the chance to play you again.

Beyond / Heavy Rain PS4 ports - Damn you lack of backwards compatibility. Heavy Rain remains my favourite game of last generation, I loved the branching story choices that actually impacted the plot, always up for playing this again. I was very disappointed by Beyond, but if it is the rumoured Director's Cut I would definitely play it again to see if I enjoy it more with a more consistent story.

Shenmue 3 - We'll see.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Jun 18th, 2015, 05:15am

http://www.gamesradar.com/arkham-knight-collectors-edition-bat-cancelled/

That really sucks for the people that wanted that. I cannot understand why they don't just release it without the statue, they clearly have the steelbooks and art books produced, so why bin them when surely people wanted them too?

No word on the Amazon exclusive edition with the alternate (and much cheaper) Batman statue but with all the other content as the original Collector's Edition, if that comes out as intended, then that edition certainly got a whole lot more valuable for ebay scalpers.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Batman-Arkham-Knight-Amazon-co-uk-Exclusive-x/dp/B00R64HB96/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1434625975&sr=8-2&keywords=arkham+knight
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Jun 25th, 2015, 8:19pm

Damn, Nick, you are such a downer. I saw a couple of wonderful games this E3. The Last Guardian (so much character), Final Fantasy VII Remake (sue me but I love this game), Dark Souls 3 (first game had/has me addicted), Dishonored 2 (looks awesome, need to play the first), Rise of the Tomb Raider (loved the reboot), No Man's Sky (good go either way), Batman: Arkham Knight (out now, but I'll wait for GOTY edition), New Nier (amazing first game), Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness (RPG lover here), Project Setsuna (RPG lover here), and Shenmue III (totally unexpected).
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Jul 2nd, 2015, 06:05am

I 100% finished Arkham Knight the other day, let it settle for a bit, now opinions. Yes I bought the Rip-Off Of The Year Edition. You know, the one that is full price with about 1 hours cut content that can be sold back to me for the price of another full price game.

I'll keep story spoilers to a minimum, other than one major issue I have with Tim Drake (In Name Only) which spoiling won't alter the experience for anyone. Anything I consider a big spoiler I'll obscure in beige, highlight at your will.

The Story

Let's get it out the way first, the story is pretty bad. The lack of Paul Dini is very noticeable, and a big mistake, the in-house writers just didn't cut it this time.

It wasn't all bad, it starts off on an adrenaline fuelled high. Batman is pissed off and more violent than we've seen in these games. Within half an hour I'm (optionally) knocking out a thug taunting me by smashing his head against his own jail cell in a little secret move, and soon after (not optionally) torturing another thug for information. It was fast paced and fun.

Problem is it really burns out fast. I didn't follow the game development much really, so much I forgot the Arkham Knight was even a character until he showed up. After the first meeting you'll have his 'secret' identity narrowed down to two people. By the second meeting you'll know exactly who he is and wishing they'd get on with the inevitable badly written reveal out the way, a reveal that makes Judd Winick's original look good. Although Jason never actually being dead did, in my opinion, make a better resurrection than a fucking time punch at least.

Overall it feels like the final act of the Nolan Trilogy, but decompressed. The story is pretty basic, and not especially compelling. I haven't played Arkham City since it came out, but I remember the story there being significantly better than this one.

It's not a total disappointment, there are some real bright spots, but the deficiencies are very apparent.


Characters

Some suspect de-powering of Batman as it were. He gets knocked down a lot. And no I'm not talking about player skill, I'm talking about cutscenes. Hell, when I was in control Batman was a hell of a lot more capable than in the cutscenes. The final story mission (not the end of the actual game that comes later) is a bit suspect. Without giving it away, Batman lets Scarecrow do something I can't really imagine he'd actually ever do.

But it is the supporting characters who really suffer. Nightwing is stuck in 1980s distrust and supposedly has such a distinct lack of skill that in the Harley Quinn playable Prologue, Harley fights Nightwing to a stalemate, before Ivy dispatches him with total ease.

Tim Drake (In Name Only) is regarded as the far better figher and sidekick than Nightwing ever was. And despite Tim Drake (In Name Only) being the most overtly homosexual character I've seen in a long time, he is dating Oracle. What the fuck?! This serves no narrative purpose whatsoever. This cannot be a mistake where Rocksteady mixed up their Robins, this must be a deliberate choice. I just find it creepy. The change is not justified whatsoever. If they wanted a romance subplot (and this so badly tacked on anyway), they could and should have done it with Nightwing. Robin is fairly well integrated into the story at least, Nightwing feels bolted on in obligation despite the Rocksteady giving the impression of not wanting him. They could have easily given Nightwing and Oracle a well written romance that would have improved both their characters, and left Tim Drake (In Name Only) to his already justified inclusion without unnecessary bolted on creepy subplots.

Oracle is not the Oracle we know and love from the comics. She is capable and tough, but far less so than the one we've loved for a couple of decades. She isn't Chuck Dixon or Gail Simone strong, far from it. I don't have the problems with the portrayal as the militant indoctrinated feminazis do - oh I've read their vitriol. Her portrayal is not sexist in the least, far from it. But she just isn't the awesome character we love.

General villains feel like a tacked on afterthought. Arkham Knight has his badly written motivations. Scarecrow is two dimensional, but he at least fares better than Two-Face or Penguin. Poison Ivy is about the only one who comes off with any character, she was put to good use.

Yes Mark Hamill recorded lines for the game. Without giving away how he factors in, probably one of the biggest highlights of the game were two songs he recorded in character as The Joker, wonderful stuff with some hilarious lyrics. You may be able to find them on Youtube, one is the end credits music.


Gameplay

When Arkham Asylum came out in 2009, I found the gameplay fairly dull, it didn't stand out from the crowd of other 3rd person games. It took the same Biohazard 4 inspiration of pretty much every Post-2005 3rd person game, and slapped a Batman skin on it.

Gameplay has definitely evolved into something a bit more fun to simply play now. Yes there are still some issues with clunky combat when there are enemies with shields or electricity, but for the most part the combat works as well as ever.

The map is a lot bigger than ever, but unlike Arkham City and Origins it NEVER feels like a chore. Upgrade your grapple and you'll quicken your glide speed immensely. Gliding over the city is very enjoyable at top speed. Bored of gliding? No worries, hop in the Batmobile!

The Batmobile takes some getting used to. There is a secret option only accessible when in the Batmobile itself to change the controls. I couldn't use the defaults, but after switching to Toggle mode to switch between car and tank modes and it became a lot nicer to play. Also in car mode I used the zoomed out camera view, the default camera was too close and hard to see where you're going at speed. Pull back the camera and things were a lot more playable.

I've seen a lot of players found the Batmobile more a detriment, and I fully see their point. There is too much Batmobile combat. And more than one too many Batmobile stealth boss battles. Yes, Batmobile stealth boss battles... Hey, even I liked it, the first time...

Many of my issues with the environment are addressed. Arkham Asylum felt too shiny and modern, Arkham City was all run down slums. I liked the Arkham Origins facelift with Christmas decorations and snow. I like that Arkham Knight has a bit of variety. You do have some proper gothic architecture, not enough, but it's there. There are also more Nolan Gotham style modern skyscrapers in there. There are slums too. But I like having a bit of a balance of everything this time.


The Fucking Riddler

I didn't have too much issue with him before. I found all his pissing trophies annoying, but it was something I'd do over a number of weeks after finishing the game. This time you are required to do everything before you can see the true ending. That fucking pissed me off. It felt like a chore doing all this pissing sidequest just to get the ending of the goddamned game. I'm thoroughly sick of these lame fetch quests.


Professer Pyg

Why does he get his own section? Because his sidequest is awesome! That's why!


Overall

The story is a let down, but overall it is a fun and enjoyable game to play. There are some annoying glitches, there are some very suspect design choices. There are times this game made me very angry, but overall the good definitely outweighs the bad.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jul 8th, 2015, 3:05pm

Would you recommend it to someone like me who likes asylum over city? I did like city, just i found getting around a chores and a lot of the game rather dull

And can you just drive the batmobile every where?
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Nick on Jul 9th, 2015, 02:31am

I too preferred Asylum to City. The City map was so boring because it was all slums, and I agree getting round was a chore. I preferred the more focussed linearity of Asylum.

Knight is actually fun to get around once you have upgraded your grapple/glide ability because it is really fast. The Batmobile you can take anywhere on street level, a few underground areas, and even jump it on a small selection of rooftops.

I personally found the gameplay more fun and varied than City. But your mileage will come down to how much you can put up with the very Un-Batman like tank sections. They are very over the top. Personally I didn't mind them too much, but they are really forced upon you to tout the inclusion of the Batmobile and many would argue there are simply far too many of them.

There is just far too much to do. It all goes a bit Far Cry 3&4 as there are so many enemy watchtowers/checkpoints etc to take out, some stealth, some fights, some Batmobile. While there are more gameplay styles than City, it gets very laborious having to do these things over and over again.

From a technical standpoint it is by far the best in the series (unless you're playing on PC obviously). But personally I think the focussed nature of Asylum had the best overall experience.
Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by Chaos on Jul 9th, 2015, 10:30am

Thanks

Sounds better then city for sure. I'll wait for the GOTY though. And no problems with all the map icons. I've played a lot of ass creed and ubisoft are the kings of filling the map with crap lol

Re: The Video Games Thread
Post by TheMidnighter on Apr 23rd, 2016, 5:31pm

Since April 12, I have lost my free time to Dark Souls 3.