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The definitive DK edition
Post by capetalf on Jan 24th, 2007, 11:07am

I'd like to know your opinion about which one is the definitive edition for a collector: Absolute Dark Knight or the 10th Anniversary book. Of course, considering only DK Returns.
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by snipe on Jan 24th, 2007, 12:06pm

I've yet to see the Absolute version in person, but it's way over priced. You can get one of the recently released (recent = last few years) hardcovers for pretty cheap. They all contain the "extra" material that was released with the 10A versions. I've had both and looked at them side by side.
If you don't care about DK2 (which is included in the Absolute) and don't care about getting the bigger-sized pages, go with one of the recent releases. The Absolute will have interviews, sketches, etc. that aren't anywhere else, but they are for sure not necessary and you'd probably only read / look at them once.

Of course, that's just my two cents. Welcome aboard!
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by capetalf on Jan 25th, 2007, 11:12am

I was about to get a 10A edition at Ebay but now I've changed my mind. It is a expensive book for sure.. The Absolute is overpriced too, but the bigger pages have a great appeal, I've got to admit..

Thanks a lot!
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by snipe on Jan 25th, 2007, 1:26pm

The tenth anniversary editions shouldn't be very expsenive at all. I got mine a few years back at cover price ($16 if I remember correctly). VisionComix (http://www.visioncomix.com/DC/Batman/Batman_TPB_AtoG.html) has it for $12. The edition they have on that link is almost identical to the 10A's, only the cover is different.
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by capetalf on Jan 26th, 2007, 04:57am

Actually, I was talking about the slipcase 10A limited edition. At ebay, it goes for around $80.
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by snipe on Jan 26th, 2007, 05:41am

Then completely disregard everything I've said - I was unaware of such a beast. I had a tpb that had a 10th Anniversary Edition banner across the top and assumed that's what you were talking about...
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by capetalf on Jan 26th, 2007, 10:20am

Anyway, your info was very useful. One more (and last) question: the TPBs generally are a better choice than the regular issues? I mean, regarding the quality of the paper, colors etc.
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by snipe on Jan 26th, 2007, 11:43am

on Jan 26th, 2007, 10:20am, capetalf wrote:
Anyway, your info was very useful. One more (and last) question: the TPBs generally are a better choice than the regular issues? I mean, regarding the quality of the paper, colors etc.


I'd say no. Not all reglar issues are published as trades, so if you only get them, you don't get everything. Paperstock is generally the same in trades as they were regularly published. Colors the same.
Some other things to consider: trades don't usually hold the same value as their counterparts (save for a handful which have gone out of print), and you may not get the whole story. Take for instance some of the 90s Batman trades: they might say they include Nightwing #41 and Catwoman #33, but they might only have a few pages pertinent to the story - not the entirety of Nightwing #41.
Trades look great on shelves and are great for archival material, but I'd rather have my issues smiley
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by dudelovebaby on Jan 26th, 2007, 6:25pm

However, eventually there's a chance you might grow impatient and become a trade waiter like me. That is the Squads version of the dark side.
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by TheMidnighter on Jan 27th, 2007, 10:32pm

Trades do not hold advertisements: that's a big plus for me. But I still buy my Batman (and other series) monthly in issue. I also by some series in trade alone - those are mostly Vertigo titles.

Welcome to The 'Squad, capetalf. Enjoy your stay.
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by snipe on Jan 27th, 2007, 10:53pm

on Jan 26th, 2007, 6:25pm, dudelovebaby wrote:
However, eventually there's a chance you might grow impatient and become a trade waiter like me. That is the Squads version of the dark side.


And then, there are people who go both ways. Like me laugh
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by CapedCrusaderJRK on Mar 12th, 2007, 12:52am

on Jan 27th, 2007, 10:53pm, snipe wrote:
And then, there are people who go both ways. Like me laugh


IwillnotmakeajokeIwillnotmakeajokeIwillnotmakeajoke--

Anyway, I would buy the hell out of that Absolute edition--and most of the other Absolutes as well--if I wasn't stinking poor. cry

Even though I do have the original versions of the two, I would get it, if not just because I could sell them for my nice, big one, then for the extra features and if I was seriously annoyed at someone, I could knock them out with the behemoth. cool
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by masahikotahara on Mar 3rd, 2016, 05:36am

This thread is pretty old, but I was updating the section on my website that lists the (collected) editions of Batman: The Dark Knight Returns:

http://ultimatebatmancomicswebsite.weebly.com/batman-the-dark-knight-returns-versions.html

A LOT OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS...

With the current series Dark Knight III: The Master Race, I was thinking if/when DC should/would publish a new collection of all Miller's Batman stories. They could name it ''The Absolute Frank Miller Batman'' - Vol. I-II, or something like that.

I think it's a shame that Batman: Year One isn't available in the Absolute format; it should have been included in the Absolute Dark Knight when it came out. I don't love the Absolute format that much to be honest (I recently sold my Absolute Long Halloween, Hush and Batman: Reborn), but I kept on to the Absolute Watchmen and the Absolute Dark Knight - they are classics that I want to keep, in their pretty slipcases.

So, shouldn't DC publish a new Absolute edition of Frank Miller's Batman?

- Batman: Year One
- The Dark Knight Returns
- The Dark Knight Strikes Again
- Dark Knight III: The Master Race
- All-Star Batman & Robin The Boy Wonder


I don't think they will, knowing that DKR, DKSA and ASBAR are already available in the Absolute format, but it would be nice to add Year One and DKIII to have a complete ''Absolute Frank Miller Batman'' collection...
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by snipe on Mar 3rd, 2016, 4:09pm

on Mar 3rd, 2016, 05:36am, masahikotahara wrote:
I was thinking if/when DC should/would publish a new collection of all Miller's Batman stories. They could name it ''The Absolute Frank Miller Batman'' - Vol. I-II, or something like that.


They did, back in the '90s:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Frank-Miller-Batman/dp/068140969X

Of course, this was before DK2 and 3. It also included a stand-alone issue titled Santa Claus Must Die (I think that was the title).
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by TheMidnighter on Mar 3rd, 2016, 10:37pm

on Mar 3rd, 2016, 4:09pm, snipe wrote:
They did, back in the '90s:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Frank-Miller-Batman/dp/068140969X

Of course, this was before DK2 and 3. It also included a stand-alone issue titled Santa Claus Must Die (I think that was the title).


"Wanted: Santa Claus--Dead or Alive."

Or so Google tells me.
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by masahikotahara on Mar 4th, 2016, 5:22pm

Yes, I have that one, and although it is one of the prettiest books I have, I'd still like to see Year One done in an Absolute version; slipcased and oversized.

I recently bought the other Batman book by Longmeadow Press (they also published ''The Complete Frank Miller Batman''):

Stacked Deck: The Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told

Very nice!
Re: The definitive DK edition
Post by snipe on Mar 5th, 2016, 09:13am

Stacked Deck is awesome. I used to have the FM, but I sold it after we had our falling out.